Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

Think most people want the option of either choosing xlfg or server lfg. No magic involved.

Sorry, I have Ferroz on ignore, so I'll have to address you. Can you not trade with other players while using LFG finder..I mean, once you're in the instance and all? I don't play WoW, so have no experience with their tool.

Sorry, but you are exaggerating. Sure it is easier to do Dragon Soul using the LFR than the normal version. But you still need to have most of the raid group do the fights correctly. And Wiping still does occur. But what matters is you do not have to use it if you think it is too easy. It does what it is intended to do very well and is a challenge for a lot of players. Maybe not for the best ones. But they have other options .

Exactly. Currently as it is with groups, only the Group Leader can kick anyone. Which is a nightmare if they're the one ninja-ing. And I've had that had a couple of times already.

That's an oversimplification of the issue.

People are under the belief that cross server LFG's work the way they did in WoW circa WoTLK where the groups were very temporary, there wasn't much dialog, and you almost never ever saw any of those you would be put together with again. Which did nothing to add to the community feel, or individuals ability to find like minded people on a more permanent basis.

I'm actually all for LFG tools. Cross serever I would be more hesitant if they couldn't solve the having cross servers easily, and unobtrusively, added to your friends list.

But if they could solve that, have at it. In fact, it would solve a great number of issues. Mainly the ones you outlined: dead server people to get in touch with other people. To take the community from a server level, to a game level.

Having said that, there are more real pressing logistical issues for cross server lfg tools in the means that TOR is designed.

In the FP's and OP's, cross server would and/or could function exactly like WoW: everyone called to a separately created instance and you leave it and head back to your origin server.

However, the H2's and H4's not associated with instances start proposing much more interesting logistical issues. I think that's what the real issue that BW is having.

That's what I keep saying would be best, but the Anti-XLFG people keep saying an uncompromising no to that answer.
Funny, they complain about community and then show no compassion towards other players.

Putting them on ignore is all you can actually do for the health of the game, whether you're talking about cross or single server. People are more likely to put you on ignore for spamming general if you go complaining about them.

Again: why are you assuming that this is going to be possible?

Cross server lfg does not in any way help RMT/gold sellers.


If you're arguing that realid is badly implemented... well, that doesn't really have anything to do with cross server itself. The functionality is there and it's clear how the system can be well implemented (ie, take a look at the incoming battle tag system for wow)

eh, if half the raid sat there and did nothing, you didn't have enough dps to take down (for example) the tendons in the time that you had to take them out. That may no longer be the case (I haven't played wow in a bit), if you have highly overgeared people doing the content...

But that's irrelevant: if you don't want to do dumbed down content, don't do the dumbed down content. Play the content that's not dumbed down.

Yes. But..not in the upcoming MOP LFR tool. They are implementing a drop and roll system similair to what TOR uses in thier Operations. Which is...no more rolling for items and no more trading of items you win. The system will roll for you. This will help with the ninjas for items and also with the wait times as some now log before they roll on a item. Making the remaining players wait the 2 mins for the roll timer to wear off.

Even in the current LFG and LFR tools, you can't trade with anyone who's not on your server, other than drops that happened in that instance. So that does not, in any way, help RMT/gold sellers transfer stuff from one server to another.

No. The way I see it, the compromise is having same-server LFG tool. You have one camp that wants no-holds-barred x-server access and another group that doesn't want any LFG tool. To me, the middle ground that best addresses all concerns is the same-server LFG tool.