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Cross server group find for flashpoints is needed.

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Valkirus
04.30.2012 , 09:34 PM | #111
Quote: Originally Posted by terminova View Post
Yes, you actually are. The logic you are using is these other games are successful because they have cross realm LFG, and implying that because TOR doesn't it won't be.
No...I am saying TOR will be more successful if they have a cross server LFG tool. And I donot think WoW or even Rift at this stage would be as successful without one. TOR can elect to not have one and if they do, I am not saying they will die.
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Guajolote
04.30.2012 , 09:53 PM | #112
As a late night player, I'd love to see cross realm lfg just to broaden the numbers and shorten the queues. Also, my main in WoW was recruited and server transferred into a guild with people I met in the dungeon finder. I used it extensively since it was implemented in WotLK and my experience with it was overall extremely positive.

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mothear
04.30.2012 , 09:55 PM | #113
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
News flash. Not all want to be on a high pop server, as being on a low one has the advantage of less competition for mobs, quest items, no que times to logon..etc. Would not mind at all being on a low pop server, even prefer to be. Cross server LFG tool is badly needed for those who want to be able to do end game content according to thier best times to play. And you will not be forced to use one.
Newsflash, all you've just explained is that you are an 'I want everything my way' person. MMO's are about choices, you want no queues, no competition but want everything that others have who have to suffer queues and competition.

Fortunately for you there will be limited free transfers. Presumably Bioware will designate a number of servers where they wish to increase the population to make grouping easier, although in order to keep side balance in check Republic players will probably have more choice. If you chose not to avail yourself of this opportunity then suck it up and deal with it, it's your choice to live on a dead server after the free transfers, not Bioware's.

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Valkirus
04.30.2012 , 09:55 PM | #114
Quote: Originally Posted by Callianna View Post
After playing wow for many years, I personally noticed that when cross server lfg came out that my server community declined dramatically. Once something like cross server lfg is introduced then people no longer have to talk to each other at all. Just log in queue up and log off. Not to mention alot of people seem to become huge jerks in lfg since there is no consequence to their actions. After all you'll likely never see the same people twice in lfg since they are from a different server and they don't care if they destroy their reputation. Where as before lfg when people were jerks no one would group with them anymore. That's why so many are against cross server lfg, we have learned from previous experience that it is not a good thing.
Well...this is still on topic because the concern by some is a cross server LFG tool will ruin the community. But sence you have given your personal experence with it..it is only fair I give my personal experence with it also...

Before the cross server LFG tool was added..my guild in WoW membership was around 175....and we did some raids in TBC and also in WOTLK. Today...after the cross server LFG tool was added..we have 237 members. We do a lot of stuff together and chat often in guild chat about all sorts of things.

Sometimes we do a all guild raid...but mostly we use the LFR tool when we want to raid. Why? Because it lets us raid when we want to. We have done 25 man raids using the cross server LFG tool with as many as 10 of the players made up of us guildies. We enjoy them and talk often in guild chat and congrats to each other when we win a item from drops. We also do many random 5 man heroics as all guild runs and help each other out. The cross server tool has had zero impact on enjoying our community within our guild. Now for those who are outside and donot meet our one rule , which is basically respect others at all times, we donot let it concern us.

Not everyone is going to think like we do..so that is fine. And if we do happen to group with any jerks..we use the ignore feature..which works great. Once you put someone on your ignore list, you never will be grouped with them again. And personally having a long ignore list has not hampered my getting into LFR runs. But what it has done is cut down on the nunber of jerks I get grouped with. What type of community you have depends on who you associate with.
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Valkirus
04.30.2012 , 09:59 PM | #115
Quote: Originally Posted by Guajolote View Post
As a late night player, I'd love to see cross realm lfg just to broaden the numbers and shorten the queues. Also, my main in WoW was recruited and server transferred into a guild with people I met in the dungeon finder. I used it extensively since it was implemented in WotLK and my experience with it was overall extremely positive.
Yes and this is another perfect reason to have one. It allows for faster groups to be formed and the player's time is important afterall. Same experence here for me also with the cross server LFG tool. Very positive.
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Syanis
05.01.2012 , 02:55 AM | #116
The day that TOR adds an LFG cross server too is the day the game dies. The community dies which is whats holding the game together.

Now what I see the OP posting is the problem is a severe under-populated server but the logical fix is NOT an LFG cross server tool but a simple server merge. Just take the US servers and slide 3 into 1 and your set. The Aussie servers have no issue and don't need an LFG tool.... why? Because we have the server population.

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chaosdefined
05.01.2012 , 03:53 AM | #117
Quote: Originally Posted by Syanis View Post
The day that TOR adds an LFG cross server too is the day the game dies. The community dies which is whats holding the game together.
People keep saying this but nobody has managed to actual show us this fabled community.

You keep putting this idea of a community onto a pedastal and worship it as if it was a Utopia, but the sort of community you're imagining hasn't existed in MMO's for years. Know why?
Let's think for a moment. Would you say the entire city you live in has a great community where everyone knows everyone? No.
Would you say your local pub, sports club, college class has a great community to it? Yes. Know why? Smaller numbers.

That's why at the end of the day, your Guild is now your community and a handful of other players within your server.

The definition of an MMO is Massively Multiplayer, this does not mean segregating servers and building walls so that you don't have to play with someone on a different server.

You're scared that some mean nasty player from another server will steal your shiny loot or say a bad word to you? That's fine, but be realistic, playing in an instance with someone of another server will not magically make your General Chat die or cause people to no longer want to socialise.

You all say these games are about choices, then deny people the choice of whether they can use Cross Server or not.

So I vote for a compromise. A Cross-Server Group Finder with the option of only searching Single-Server. That way both parties can use it how they want.

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Mishko
05.01.2012 , 03:59 AM | #118
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
So I vote for a compromise. A Cross-Server Group Finder with the option of only searching Single-Server. That way both parties can use it how they want.
NO! Only Cross-Realm! Single-Server is a joke, believe me, its epic fail.

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Ismercu
05.01.2012 , 04:06 AM | #119
I play on Legions of Lettow (EU-PvP), 150-200 people at peak times, 250 after the first week of 1.2, i have yet to do Lost Islands yet and I average 1 hm per week, just saying. People do BT HM for dailies but thats it.

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chaosdefined
05.01.2012 , 04:11 AM | #120
Quote: Originally Posted by Mishko View Post
NO! Only Cross-Realm! Single-Server is a joke, believe me, its epic fail.
Like I said, you would still get Cross-Server but others would have the choice to select Single-Server searching if they wanted.