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Cross server group find for flashpoints is needed.

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Valkirus
04.30.2012 , 05:03 PM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by superpipito View Post
Can we leave WoW and MoP out of this? What wow sub have anything to do with LFG tool? LFG tool make game more open, more comfortable to play, more casual gamers friendly. What can be more casual than Star Wars? its like fairy tales we all grew on. Why block raiding content for 1% of hardcore raiders and put some story in there?
The references to WoW is for good reasons. It is a example of how well a cross realm LFG too can work. And it is normal to be compared to what is considered still to be the top MMO in the market circles. I really enjoy TOR and want to see it prosper and live long. But I cannot see that happening without some what has been proven excelllent tools for the players.
Trust is something which is earned.

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nytegaunt
04.30.2012 , 05:05 PM | #72
Why does cross-server PVE destroy communities but the same doesn't hold true for cross-server PVP?

I'm not trying to be facetious even take sides in this argument (right now at least), but I am really curious as to the logic/analysis behind that.

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Sinaed
04.30.2012 , 05:05 PM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
The references to WoW is for good reasons. It is a example of how well a cross realm LFG too can work. And it is normal to be compared to what is considered still to be the top MMO in the market circles. I really enjoy TOR and want to see it prosper and live long. But I cannot see that happening without some what has been proven excelllent tools for the players.
Well at least you believe in TOR. Thats always good, and here i thought you were one of the unsubscribers that sit around on the Forums and try to troll people.
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Valkirus
04.30.2012 , 05:06 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by RocNessMonster View Post
Here's why I dont like xLFG. Everything has to be dumbed down to the lowest common denominator, people that want the best rewards for as little effort as possible. Cataclysm was interesting at launch, bosses weren't just faceroll and required attention, but that was too much for the "casual" (read as facerollers that watch TV while playing).

Dragon Soul patch launches and were back to 3 hallway 4 rooms dungeon format. No effort required to even look at the screen, half a faceroll and click need or greed. Guess I need to remember that today's gamer, effort is a four letter word, an anathema
There is allways Heroic Dragon Soul for those of your superior playing skills.
Trust is something which is earned.

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superpipito
04.30.2012 , 05:09 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
The references to WoW is for good reasons. It is a example of how well a cross realm LFG too can work. And it is normal to be compared to what is considered still to be the top MMO in the market circles. I really enjoy TOR and want to see it prosper and live long. But I cannot see that happening without some what has been proven excelllent tools for the players.
well for blizzard wow always priority number 1 as for bioware anybody think its number 1? its not even their franchise to begin with, so no point to expect 101% from them. But i agree they should take everything best already established in genre like LFG/LFR tool and implement as soon as possible.

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Valkirus
04.30.2012 , 05:09 PM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by Sinaed View Post
Well at least you believe in TOR. Thats always good, and here i thought you were one of the unsubscribers that sit around on the Forums and try to troll people.
Hehe. No, I still sub and want to continue. TOR has some great things going for it. And some features I wish WoW had. But I happen to not be blind to it's short comings. But the lack of a tool for those on low pop servers to experence end game content is one of them.
Trust is something which is earned.

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RocNessMonster
04.30.2012 , 05:09 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
There is allways Heroic Dragon Soul for those of your superior playing skills.
Did I say raiding? No I said dungeon. There's been no real heroic mode dungeons since TBC, just easy and regular varieties.
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HoneyBoy
04.30.2012 , 05:11 PM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by RocNessMonster View Post
Did I say raiding? No I said dungeon. There's been no heroic mode real heroic mode dungeons since TBC, just easy and regular varieties.
That's basically Blizzard has declared raids to be the ultimate end game focus for PvE. Good news though! There will be challenge modes for you in MOP so you can be no.1 on your own special leaderboard

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Senatsu
04.30.2012 , 05:15 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by HoneyBoy View Post
You're not recalling correctly. WoW subscription rates were already dropping in 2009 and after the LFD was implemented in patch 3.3 the numbers went back up where it eventually peaked at around 12 million with the release of cataclysm before dropping again.

http://www.tentonhammer.com/wow/subscriber-numbers-2012
http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-1.png
According to that chart, at the end of TBC WoW had around 11 million subs (WotLK was released in November 2008), which seems to coincide roughly just before the release of WotLK. Patch 3.3 (which introduced LFD) launched in December 2009, but the population kept dropping. Then around the time of Cata's release it increased in subscriptions to roughly 12 million before quickly dropping again. LFR was launched 29th of November 2011, but the subs kept dropping, while, funnily enough, Aion's sub drops slowed down, Runescape got a small influx of subscribers and SWTOR was launched.

Nothing in that chart even remotely says that LFD or LFR made WoW gain subscribers, quite the opposite in fact, they kept dropping. The only factors that actually increased population was the launch of WotLK and the launch of Cataclysm. This can mean that LFD and LFR only helped in decreasing subs, at best kept it from dropping more than it did, but they certainly didn't help increasing subs or bring old players back.

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Sabster
04.30.2012 , 05:20 PM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by Sinaed View Post
Solution:Server Merges or Transfers which Bioware is working on
They're working on a cross server LFG system too; starting with PVP. They are talking about doing heroics and flashpoints next.