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Dear Expertise, You Are Terrible

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Dear Expertise, You Are Terrible

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Dekai
04.30.2012 , 02:32 PM | #131
Quote: Originally Posted by Bazzoong View Post
BaM gear got updated in 1.2, it is above Rakata gear, this was done due to the fact that WH was supposed to be for rated games and a step up from everything else.

Your comparison would be true for pre 1.2 battlemaster gear and pre 1.2 rakata.

My 2c
Updated, yes. By dropping Base and Secondary stats for more Expertise. Battlemaster is still 140 rating, Rakata is still 140 Rating. They didn't just add more Expertise to Battlemaster leaving the rest of the stats as they were pre 1.2.

This is why they warned people, "Hey guys! If you modified your PvP gear? Better put those mods back in or it won't update!" Leaving players who didn't revert their mods, with higher base and secondary stats, but much lower Expertise, which was vital to PvP with the expertise changes.
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Rogozhi
04.30.2012 , 04:21 PM | #132
I'm a fairly fresh 50, so I'm just starting to put together my sets. I've been using BM gear in place of Columni because it is ever so slightly better, but not nearly as good as Rakata. While I'm sure BM=Rakata in design, when it comes to PvE, BM is more equal to Columni.

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HBninjaX
04.30.2012 , 04:30 PM | #133
expertise is great. i'm able to compete in pvp as a semi casual now that the stat has been improved. it's brilliant, really. i think opposition is mostly coming from carebears

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Finnius
04.30.2012 , 05:05 PM | #134
God I hate prokid internet slang. Yes, I have a problem with expertise as a mechanic because I'm a stuffed animal with a wildly popular cartoon in the late 1980s - early 90s. Makes perfect sense.

If you think the only reason someone is opposed to a stat that forces end-game gear from PVE to be utterly pointless in all aspects of PVP while seeing no problem with the same tier from PVP being just fine through most of PVE content is because they're bad, just say so.

Just expect me to call you out for being a hypocrite.

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Vulgarr
04.30.2012 , 05:09 PM | #135
Quote: Originally Posted by HBninjaX View Post
expertise is great. i'm able to compete in pvp as a semi casual now that the stat has been improved. it's brilliant, really. i think opposition is mostly coming from carebears
when 2 people in the lowest tier pvp gear can kill 1 person in the best pvp gear before the person in the best tier gear has a chance to do a single rotation, theres something wrong.

i grinded for my gear, suffering through an endless amount of warzones with teams that were horribad. loss after loss. looking forward to bags that had a random droprate of gear/marks of 1 in 30. had a full set of BM gear before 1.2.

now my main has a full set of WM critted gear with BM mods and 2 augmented elegant weapons.

1261 expertise and 2 casuals with less than 600 expertise can kill him before he gets through one rotation.

ive changed my mind, if they dont revert the change in expertise (at least damage) to pre 1.2 by the next patch day (tomorrow) then i quit, uninstall and i will wait for gw2. im not playing a game that screwed something up so bad that no one was complaining about in the first place. i will not contribute to the life of a community, even for FREE, to a game that completely destroys something that had nothing wrong with it.

the healer nerf should have been enough. there was no need to increase damage with expertise.

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RocNessMonster
04.30.2012 , 05:19 PM | #136
Quote: Originally Posted by Ushela View Post
Yep, sounds like its working as intended. Move along please, nothing to see here but noobs who dont understand the game...
I know what taxes are, which is exactly what expertise is. PVP Tax, no more no less.
I need about tree fitty.

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Darth_Gao_Gao
04.30.2012 , 05:47 PM | #137
i don't see the problem with expertise. you can get recruit gear and be competitive, and the battlemaster grind is incredibly easy.

i'd say cry more but you guys have been crying too much.

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DarthPunitor
04.30.2012 , 06:01 PM | #138
typical pve'er qqing because he gets facerolled in pvp because he refuses to get expertise gear.

Seriously, just BUY a set of recruit gear and wear it when you pvp. The recruit gear puts you around 800 expertise which is pretty damn good compared to what most people roll anyway (from what i've seen on my server).
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Finnius
04.30.2012 , 06:07 PM | #139
Also typical PVP whine whenever someone makes a suggestion to balance PVP so that they can have actual competition rather than steamroll slaughterfests. But I suppose you're not actually interested in that, so do be a dear and keep it to yourself.

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Caeliux
04.30.2012 , 06:09 PM | #140
Quote: Originally Posted by maticlandarr View Post
Blind leading the blind around here.
You got that right.
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