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Same Server LFG + Paid transfers = Fail...

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Bloodstealer
04.30.2012 , 01:18 PM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
Guessing based off logic is better than wearing the blinders that you seem to be looking at the situation through.
I wear no blinkers and need none ... I see all that's out there and what's out there isn't what you assume... know the saying.. NEVER ASSUME... it makes an A** fo U and ME .... waiting to see what is implemented and then making a judgement call is vastly different and more LOGICAL then making wild assumptions based on NOWT!

Nope, Rift is horrible. I love SWTOR and I'll keep playing it regardless. You can stress a concern or a dislike and still love the game. You did know that, right?
I like the game alot and I make it no secret that I have made my fair share of comments on certain things I dont like about it... difference being there are facts, actuals and maybe even screenies to back that up with.. what your have done is try to make something out of nothing but pure guesswork without knowing what Bioware are or are not doing.. hell even if they did half what you seem to think, I think the majority of players would understand things such a cost to move etc... but without knowing what, when, where, how etc etc... your post is quite simply irrelevant.

Well, a lot of us left high level characters behind and rerolled on heavy pop servers so we could...you know... actually enjoy this game as an MMO. So, because we did the smart thing, we'll likely have to either forget our original characters or pay more money so we can actually play them again.
The fact you left them behind knowing that you wanted to go elsewhere and enjoy ythe game... building up new toons, means that to all intent and purpose the toons were quashed for ya... if your now wanting to whine and bleet blue murder cos you may or may not have to pay to transfer them.. to me seems ever so slightly a non-argument.. you made a choice to leave them behind, Bioware never twisted your arm and they are not twisting them to make you pay to transfer them...

I have a heavy pub server and a heavy imp server. If I can't transfer my old characters to these two servers, they are completely useless to me. I don't care if the old servers become heavy pop or not as I've already found new homes. I shouldn't have to pay money because I was forced to either reroll or play this game as a single player game.

OK who forced you, who made you.. that's right, NO-ONE did.. you made that choice all by yourself

Bioware should be happy that people like me were willing to reroll and keep playing in the first place. Sticking it to us by making us fork out more money is not the answer....
I am gunna break the cardinal rule here and say I guess you dont run your own business, otherwise you might of understood why they look to make money in any way they can... if they dont then the game will simply not be around... it's the way of any MMO I have ever played, especially now with things like F2P, micro-transactions etc becoming more and more the norm... to just design a game and continually develop it based purely on subscriptions is just not long term viable anymore, if it ever really was... so please dont try kidding yourself or anyone else here that Bioware are doing anything that any other game isn't already doing

I personally dislike cross server queues, but, I'd take them over having to wait 2 or 3 times longer due to my server being "good enough" and not qualifying for a free transfer.
Once again your off on the guesswork bandwagon

The fact is, Bioware messed up...
Maybe they did, maybe they didnt, who knows what kind of business plan they had developed to support the game, pethaps the servers were being starved for this very purose.. or like you said they paniced at launch and got the server pops, sharding etc painfully wrong.. then again they couldnt really look into acrystal ball and see who was going to choose what server when they logged in for the first time... so they took a decision to give more choice but not allow any server the chance to load to heavily in an attempt to give everyone the least amount of que time ... you know to try and enjoy the game "as you say

They spread out their player base making most of their servers ghost towns....
I agree this is a flaw.. or was it? .. either way yes I agree the server pops are way under where they need, and in another thread recently I posted my opinion that server merges woulod be a better first option to aid in this issue.. that though brings in other problems like toon names etc... having had that before in other MMO's, its also not going to please everyone .. so where do Bioware win.. in trying to help solve a proble, either of their own making or simply due to migration of others, there will always be whiners, doomslayers, 2nd guessers and occasionally a happy customer.
And now, to make up for that, a lot of us that rerolled and kept paying/playing will likely have to pay real money for Bioware's mistake...
No one is forcing you to.. your having fun with your new toons, in your new home(s) right (that's what you have said right ??). You made the call to reroll elsewhere, you decided it best to leave the other toons for dead, lets be honest they are pixels on a screen nothing more.. and dont come back with the bull about the time you invested in them etc.. if it was that much of an issue you wouldn't of left them there for dead.. transfers were never agreed to come in so you took a chance.... be thankful maybe you get an opportunity to get them back to play in your new ho,ke at all.... you never know, it might not cost you a penny

You call my claims assumptions, and they are for sure. But, you're kidding yourself if you think that they're far fetched.
Whether your claims and assumption do bare fruit when plans come to fruition... the best logical caourse of action is to wait, see what pans out then make a judgement call based on real facts... then if you still feel the need, come back and whine that those pixels you forsoke a times back are really of top priority to you and your being ripped off.

BTW not many MMO's provide the opportunity to have sooo many toon slots to play with... 8 per server, pretty impressive as many other MMO's make you pay for so many, you were able to reroll toons for free
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Skidrowbro
04.30.2012 , 01:18 PM | #72
Bioware should just make a server or a couple that are FP's, Ops and WZ's only. That way the players who want their precious LFD can run dungeons till their hearts content. Make it one giant chat room with a join FP, join Ops, or join WZ button because these players obviously don't care about server communities and other players on those servers.

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SaulGood
04.30.2012 , 01:38 PM | #73
Do we have a time frame for the LFD tool?

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Bloodstealer
04.30.2012 , 01:42 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Skidrowbro View Post
Bioware should just make a server or a couple that are FP's, Ops and WZ's only. That way the players who want their precious LFD can run dungeons till their hearts content. Make it one giant chat room with a join FP, join Ops, or join WZ button because these players obviously don't care about server communities and other players on those servers.
Think much confusion in your head there is.. how does having a server wide grping tool in anyway not promote server community... the fact players group actually get to chat, maybe form friends lists, may get to see what a player is like in action before offering guild invties etc etcto me that actually aids the server community rather than relying on talking dross in general chat . or maybe your one of those players thats like to trash talk in general chat and is likely on most others ignore list... cos your not group friendly or have some kind of issue when around others... hmm kids today pfft!
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Caligari
04.30.2012 , 01:43 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by terminova View Post
Blizzard offers free transfers when they deem them necessary for players to move from over-populated servers to less populated servers so they can better balance out the player base among the servers. This also includes faction specific transfers to help balance out faction imbalances on specific servers from servers with faction imbalances going the other way. They offer paid transfers for moving whenever you want to whatever server you want, but they make those paid so you think about the move before just moving which helps put a damper on players just up and moving creating chaos on the servers.
Wait, do you mean BW is going to do the same thing as Blizzard? But so many people in this thread are complaining that BW needs to wake up an do what Blizzard does....you can't possibly be right... /endsarcasm

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Skidrowbro
04.30.2012 , 01:51 PM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by Bloodstealer View Post
Think much confusion in your head there is.. how does having a server wide grping tool in anyway not promote server community... the fact players group actually get to chat, maybe form friends lists, may get to see what a player is like in action before offering guild invties etc etcto me that actually aids the server community rather than relying on talking dross in general chat . or maybe your one of those players thats like to trash talk in general chat and is likely on most others ignore list... cos your not group friendly or have some kind of issue when around others... hmm kids today pfft!
Buddy, I am one of those against LFD. I want server communities. And in all honesty most of the players who are asking for the tool are most likely going to jump ship to Diablo 3 because that's the game style they are looking for, not an MMORPG. All LFD does is lead to players standing around doing nothing except waiting for a queue. So much for open world grouping

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BitterPill
04.30.2012 , 01:57 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Skidrowbro View Post
Buddy, I am one of those against LFD. I want server communities. And in all honesty most of the players who are asking for the tool are most likely going to jump ship to Diablo 3 because that's the game style they are looking for, not an MMORPG. All LFD does is lead to players standing around doing nothing except waiting for a queue. So much for open world grouping
Yeah and it people like you.. Rather have low pop server suffer because of you so called "community" Logged off last night with 2 people on fleet... I am just SICK of people like you that will push people from the game just to get your so called community..

Sorry I am so tired of people trying to force their view of play on others...

BTW love the time you created a account here.... You do care a about community...

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Skidrowbro
04.30.2012 , 02:00 PM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
Yeah and it people like you.. Rather have low pop server suffer because of you so called "community" Logged off last night with 2 people on fleet... I am just SICK of people like you that will push people from the game just to get your so called community..

Sorry I am so tired of people trying to force their view of play on others...
Not forcing anything. I'm not the one begging and pleading for something that is not in the game. You are the one forcing your view on others

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Katahn
04.30.2012 , 02:02 PM | #79
Here's what I predict will happen.

1: Server transfers from heavily or overpopulated servers to low-population servers will be offered and will be free. If this doesn't work I would expect the possibility of merging 2-3 low population servers into a single new server.

2: Paid transfers will be implemented that will allow a player to take a character from any server to any other server. They will be paid because that is a nice way of controlling how much of a workload it generates without placing an artificial cap on it - human nature being what it is if I think I am allowed X number of transfers at no cost that I am somehow "missing out" if I don't take them. Conversely a flat-cost-per-transfer becomes something I would do when necessary.

3: Single-server LFG will be implemented and will either work or not work. If people are still complaining after 1 and 2 balance the populations then expect it will become cross-server. I don't like it, I hope it won't happen, but unless grouping within servers becomes sufficiently easy to do I fully expect Bioware will decide to implement it. I just hope if they do they include community-building components to go along with it (cross-server friends lists, group forming, etc.)
Katahn
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BitterPill
04.30.2012 , 02:03 PM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by Skidrowbro View Post
Not forcing anything. I'm not the one begging and pleading for something that is not in the game. You are the one forcing your view on others
Where did I say you have to use it?????? Oh that right I didnt.. But you rather have others suffer for you vision of what you want..

I moved to a new server have off hours and done ONE HM in one month.... And then I come here seeing people complain about giving people like me more options.