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Same Server LFG + Paid transfers = Fail...

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Drobu
04.30.2012 , 10:19 AM | #41
Same server LFG is not going to do anyone any good if the server
is dead and no one is queuing. Cross server is the only way to go.
And imo, everyone should get one free transfer to any server of their
choice, after that it's on your own dime. It would be no different if you
were to reroll, it's still one more toon on that server.
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Balrizangor
04.30.2012 , 10:24 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
The price isn't what's important. It's the fact that they're making the player base pay more money for their poor choices. I have some characters that I've been sitting on waiting for transfers to hit. I might as well go ahead and delete them because I won't be paying money to move them to my two new servers.
Then why did you make the subject of your post directly point to "Paid Transfers" if price is not important?

Also, why delete the characters? If you reroll, just make new characters and keep your old ones on the server they are on since they have said server transfers are coming.

You are trying to make yourself a martyr by continuously saying you are going to have to delete your characters and it is not working.
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Galbatorrix
04.30.2012 , 10:25 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Bloodstealer View Post
Just give it up already.. you know absolutely nothing.... you are guessing everything and anything just to get yourself some attention... no matter how many players counter argue your guesswork you fail to acknowledge an ything other than you personal gripe .
Guessing based off logic is better than wearing the blinders that you seem to be looking at the situation through.

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If transfers came in tomorrow free or chargeable, I am guessing that you have a choice.. go with it or leave simple as that.. if RIFT offers you something that SWTOR doesnt then go play it, dont waste any more coin paying for a game that offers you somethng which adversely effects your enjoyment...
Nope, Rift is horrible. I love SWTOR and I'll keep playing it regardless. You can stress a concern or a dislike and still love the game. You did know that, right?

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To come to the forum bleeting your disdain over things you have zero facts to back up, merley makes you look like a DOOO1100!!!1001000M spreader, and someone feeling hard done by cos maybe the guild or in-game / RL friends have decided to go elsewhere...
Personally I would rather wait and maybe, just maybe my chosen server may see an influx of players transfering back or even if due to limited choices on the transfer tool... BUT until then it's all just HERESAY !!!
Well, a lot of us left high level characters behind and rerolled on heavy pop servers so we could...you know... actually enjoy this game as an MMO. So, because we did the smart thing, we'll likely have to either forget our original characters or pay more money so we can actually play them again. I have a heavy pub server and a heavy imp server. If I can't transfer my old characters to these two servers, they are completely useless to me. I don't care if the old servers become heavy pop or not as I've already found new homes. I shouldn't have to pay money because I was forced to either reroll or play this game as a single player game. Bioware should be happy that people like me were willing to reroll and keep playing in the first place. Sticking it to us by making us fork out more money is not the answer.


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Regarding LFG... have you actually used X-Server LFG's.. if your already whinning about low pop server choices then even if you transfer your toons all to one place, the effect of X-server LFG can have a unwelcome impact even on a high pop server, where more guild runs are likely already prominent... to have your population watered down as they dissapear across server may lead others to think.. then again those already on ligh / standard servers where grouping can be a struggle already, will only see the issue further compunded more... the only real plus would likely come to PVP where fast as queue times would be much quicker due to the random selection they take... but thats very diffdernt to specific grping requirements... so your opinion is nothing more than your opinion, which you are entitled to.. but as for 2nd guessing things you have zero fact to back up... give it up till you have something which you can come and proclaim to the masses
I personally dislike cross server queues, but, I'd take them over having to wait 2 or 3 times longer due to my server being "good enough" and not qualifying for a free transfer. The fact is, Bioware messed up. They spread out their player base making most of their servers ghost towns. And now, to make up for that, a lot of us that rerolled and kept paying/playing will likely have to pay real money for Bioware's mistake.

You call my claims assumptions, and they are for sure. But, you're kidding yourself if you think that they're far fetched.

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Balrizangor
04.30.2012 , 10:27 AM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Drobu View Post
Same server LFG is not going to do anyone any good if the server
is dead and no one is queuing. Cross server is the only way to go.
And imo, everyone should get one free transfer to any server of their
choice, after that it's on your own dime. It would be no different if you
were to reroll, it's still one more toon on that server.

They probably will have free transfers to start with, they have said that they will be offering free transfer from selected servers (read low population) to other servers. They said they will then open up server transfers to anyone to any server for a fee.
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Galbatorrix
04.30.2012 , 10:31 AM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Balrizangor View Post
Then why did you make the subject of your post directly point to "Paid Transfers" if price is not important?

Also, why delete the characters? If you reroll, just make new characters and keep your old ones on the server they are on since they have said server transfers are coming.

You are trying to make yourself a martyr by continuously saying you are going to have to delete your characters and it is not working.

The fact that you'll have to pay AT ALL is the point. Also, if I rerolled on a heavy pop server (which I did) that does not allow free transfers in the future due to being high pop, then I'd have to pay real money to move my characters from the old servers to my new ones. Since I'd never pay for such a service, yes, I might as well delete them.

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Quisong
04.30.2012 , 10:31 AM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
I've always been a huge supporter of this game and Bioware, but this decision simply blows my mind. If you're going to make a LFG auto queue feature same server, you absolutely HAVE to allow free transfers without limitations. Otherwise, the people on the "you're server is good enough.. no free transfer for you!" servers will be forced to either pay the $25 bucks per toon (price based off the WOW model) to move or face annoyingly long queue times.

You can't have it both ways Bioware. Either let us transfer our characters for free without silly limitations or make your LFG tool cross server. Otherwise, you're still forcing people to reroll or pay (literally) for your mistakes.
I agree. Dont restrict the servers Let us all transfer where we want to go. I have lots of chars and a big legacy invested, Give me the freedom to swap to a server for my needs with all the toons i want. Im paying a subscription for petes sake. that should be enough!

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Nywac
04.30.2012 , 10:32 AM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
so where does it say anything about price in this

Dallas Dickinson (Senior Producer, Live Services): We will be rolling out our Character Transfer Service in early summer. First we’ll have some targeted free transfers from/to specific servers, but that will be followed with a broader system where you can either take advantage of free promotional transfers to specific servers or paid transfers to the server of your choice. We know everyone has more questions about character transfer, and we’ll reveal more details closer to the launch date.
The word PAID in the third line of text would indicate a price lol i swear its like people cant read.

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Algaaa
04.30.2012 , 10:33 AM | #48
One thing until they launch server merge at summer the empty servers are now died. So basicly when summer will come wont be ppl to merge anyway. One more thing - aproximate price can be 15 or 25$ its true just based in wow system but i think many ppl wont be agree with it same like me because i paid for Deluxe Edition a lot + subscription + character transfer the game eat money only. Now they made sale because they losing players it is true every company does sales when they losing players just to keep going selling any ways. The game is already Failed after 1.2 i read many forums it was reason why ppl left and some left because other big titles coming or some will leave very soon. So they will shut down many servers i can be sure 100% and offer players to move. Actually they have to put ppl all in queue merge because many ppl probably will pay money and move to the full servers that is big mistake. i dont know what is going to be next on this game time will show...

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Balrizangor
04.30.2012 , 10:35 AM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
The fact that you'll have to pay AT ALL is the point. Also, if I rerolled on a heavy pop server (which I did) that does not allow free transfers in the future due to being high pop, then I'd have to pay real money to move my characters from the old servers to my new ones. Since I'd never pay for such a service, yes, I might as well delete them.

Read my post above yours.

They will be giving FREE transfers from selected servers (meaning LOW pop servers) to other servers. So, IF your old servers are low pop (which takes more into account than the number on fleet during your play times) they will probably be giving free transfers FROM it to other servers.

But, if you think it is better to delete characters then do so. I was just pointing out to you that that is a bit extreme since you have NO idea when or how the server transfer will happen. But, go ahead, delete away.
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illgot
04.30.2012 , 10:35 AM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Distracted View Post
A lot of people actually disagree with a cross-server LFG tool. While it can be a good thing, the repercussions have a tendancy to out-weight the gain.
such as?

oh, people that steal loot... big deal. If I can get into the instance anytime I want, at some point I will get the loot I want.

If how ever I can never get into the instance because of the utter lack of people on my server to run said instance, my chances of getting the loot are ZERO.

People being jackholes and kicking me because they don't like my hair? Who cares if I can juts queue up and get another group nearly instantly?