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TUXs
04.30.2012 , 10:06 AM | #531
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
More hyperbole? Point out where I'm "justifying" anything. Go ahead. And make sure you take a look at my posts disagreeing with the Expertise move, and the posts about how real PvP has died as a result.

I just call things like I see 'em. And the player-hyped GW2 is just another MMO with all its inherent imperfections and a playerbase that thinks it's the "new cool" to be a hater.
Dude, if you can't see how PATHETIC SWTORs PvP is right now, you're blind! GW2 WILL take PvPers from this game. Even if they only offer a flippin box where people can fight, it beats the crap we have here. You ARE justifying it by pretending GW2 is no threat - it IS!

I'm certainly no 'hater', nor do I want to play GW2...I want THIS game to get it's **edit** straight and fix what they keep screwing up!

Quote: Originally Posted by HeavensAgent View Post
Dates are never released until finalized, and even then they're subject to change.

If you feel dates are so important and vital, when is GW2 launching? You're claiming it's going to kill SWTOR's current population; if you're so sure it's going to have a significant impact on SWTOR you must have have a date, since you seem to consider it to be so important.
Why would you, of all people, ask for a date? You clearly state they're unimportant to you, yet you think I'll have one? Why? Why would you think I'd have a date for GW2? I hope to not play it. I didn't beta test it and I didn't give a **edit** about it tbh until SWTOR started destroying every bit of open world PvP they had.
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JeramieCrowe
04.30.2012 , 10:08 AM | #532
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Dude, if you can't see how PATHETIC SWTORs PvP is right now, you're blind! GW2 WILL take PvPers from this game. Even if they only offer a flippin box where people can fight, it beats the crap we have here. You ARE justifying it by pretending GW2 is no threat - it IS!

I'm certainly no 'hater', nor do I want to play GW2...I want THIS game to get it's **edit** straight and fix what they keep screwing up!
I never said GW2 was no threat to TOR's PvP population, I said it's no threat to TOR. TOR's entire PvP-only population can disappear, and TOR will still float quite well.

And that's not defense, it's just reality.
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HeavensAgent
04.30.2012 , 10:09 AM | #533
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04.30.2012 , 10:11 AM | #534
Sounds good to me. They'll probably force-merge Fort Garnik since it's so desolate, but my wife and I will continue to level up characters there until such time. Personally, I like having planets mostly to myself, but to each his own.

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HeavensAgent
04.30.2012 , 10:13 AM | #535
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Why would you, of all people, ask for a date? You clearly state they're unimportant to you, yet you think I'll have one? Why? Why would you think I'd have a date for GW2? I hope to not play it. I didn't beta test it and I didn't give a **edit** about it tbh until SWTOR started destroying every bit of open world PvP they had.
Because you have cited it as a threat, and you have also stated how dates are vital and necessary. If you consider GW2 a threat to SWTOR, you must know a date for its launch then. Unless one of the things you stated wasn't true, of course.

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TUXs
04.30.2012 , 10:15 AM | #536
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
I never said GW2 was no threat to TOR's PvP population, I said it's no threat to TOR. TOR's entire PvP-only population can disappear, and TOR will still float quite well.

And that's not defense, it's just reality.
Ah! OK, so you're ok with the PvPers leaving and have no worries that they'll go...got it.

I'm not. I'm one of the "PvPers" and I wanted to play THIS game. I don't agree that the game would be "quite well".
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JeramieCrowe
04.30.2012 , 10:17 AM | #537
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Ah! OK, so you're ok with the PvPers leaving and have no worries that they'll go...got it.

I'm not. I'm one of the "PvPers" and I wanted to play THIS game. I don't agree that the game would be "quite well".
Oh, they're working on open-world PvP as we speak. Ranked WZ's will probably even be here before or at 1.3. It's coming. I'm a PvPer myself, although a patient one. Maybe it's my age, fatherhood, I dunno.

Suffice it to say that GW2 can have all the impatient ones. I won't mind one bit. And it wouldn't hurt TOR in the slightest.
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04.30.2012 , 10:19 AM | #538
Quote: Originally Posted by HeavensAgent View Post
Because you have cited it as a threat, and you have also stated how dates are vital and necessary. If you consider GW2 a threat to SWTOR, you must know a date for its launch then. Unless one of the things you stated wasn't true, of course.
I WANT a date for ranked WZ's. They were PROMISED and advertised as being in 1.2.

I fear what GW2 will do to SWTOR if the PvP in that game is a fraction of what it's hyped up to be.

So please, again explain to me why you feel I need to know a date for GW2's release? You're asking for something I don't need to provide for my above statements, nor can I provide it just to appease you.
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TUXs
04.30.2012 , 10:20 AM | #539
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Oh, they're working on open-world PvP as we speak.
Link?
If I knew what you seem to know, maybe I too would be patient. I don't, so I'm not.
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JeramieCrowe
04.30.2012 , 10:24 AM | #540
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
I WANT a date for ranked WZ's. They were PROMISED and advertised as being in 1.2.


My son tries this on me, too. "Dad, can we go get some ice cream?" "We'll see. If I can get this done before 8, we'll go."

8 comes and goes, still busy.

"Sorry, son, not going to work out." "But you PROMISED!!!!11!1!thirteen" "No, son, I most certainly did NOT promise. I said we'd go if everything works out. It didn't work out. We'll go tomorrow."


Yeah, ridiculous "promise" claims don't work on non-promises.
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