If It Wasn't Star Wars, Would You PvP?

I despise fantasy stuff, didnt even like harry potter

I love all things starwars, so i play this game.

(i understand there is some degree of irony in my view, but i hate elves and dwarfs).

No I would not; Huttball was the exception until patch 1.2. Huttball most of the time has become team deathmatch.

If it wasn't starwars I'd prolly /unsub

if this game was not Star Wars, I would of quit a long time ago.

The game itself is mediocre.

But nothing else really out there to play.

SWTOR is balanced enough that PvP is very enjoyable to me. I like character progression and I feel that any game lacking character progression will not last long in today's industry. Even FPS games have character progression now in multiplayer. I probably wouldn't play BF3 anymore if I didn't have things to work towards like more ranks, more unlocks and attachments.

BW did a lot of stuff right and no other game can deliver in those areas, but also BW made mistakes and straight lied about features that didn't make it for release. The game is still enjoyable to me and I don't see anyhting else worth my time or money at the moment. BW/EA have the funds to make this game great and right now I am content giving them the opportunity.

Now come end of the year when another PvP game rolls out with 3 faction PvP... I will have to seriously consider where SWTOR stands at that point. Until then I think I will be here for awhile.

To be honest i would, anyway the launch was succesful, there were nothing else to play tbh, well apart of WoW, but i got tiered of WoW 5 years ago, so...

Moving to the mentioned game as soon as it released.

As an old school gamer who played Q3 and Unreal (and other similar games), I think the unlock system and grinds put into games like this and now shooters have ruined the multiplayer aspects of the games. I can't tell you how many hours I logged into a tactical realism mod for Call of Duty (the original). There were no unlocks. The game was just good. You played to dominate the people because PvP was fun, not that you wanted to unlock a scope.

PvP in any game should be about the PvP, not about unlocks. Especially this game where you basically need full BM to have any chance at surviving. The first few weeks of 1.2 PvP were hell and after getting full BM it isn't much better now.

To begin with, it's getting more and more questionable to me whether this game even is Star Wars in its true and proper sense anymore.

I say this because of the horrid black lightsabers, visually force corrupted non-force users which together with the recent 1.2 high level gear designs makes me seriously question BioWare's level of seriousness when it comes to respecting this IP.

And no, to be perfectly honest the only reason I currently play and PvP is due to whatever remains of "Star Wars" in the game. Although considering the fact that the development seems to have been hijacked by the loudest crying kiddies with no sense of taste or moderation whatsoever, then given enough time there might not be much left resembling the IP as some of us know it.

As for the PvP in particular, IMO it's certainly not as fun anymore mainly due to the following:

• Imbalanced and low server populations.
  
  
• TTK is down too much post 1.2.
  
  
• Pugging it and being forced to face premades.
  
  
• Getting thrown into losing Warzones (e.g. 2 minutes left on a Huttball match and under by 5 points).
  
  
• Non-existent open world PvP.
  
  
• Must admit the stunfest is getting a bit tiresome by now.

I'm currently in full Battlemaster and PvP is my main activity in game. I don't have the time nor inclination to group up or commit to more organized teamplay. So before anyone responds to my "pug vs premade" point by saying "just join a premade": No, anyone should be able to play as casual and compete against other casuals. It's a perfectly valid playstyle and a most reasonable request, or else there wouldn't even be an option to solo queue in the first place.

Granted, a lot of the stuff I listed above can be fixed, but the question is how long it will take. I can't speak for anyone else, but pretty much all of my guildies/RL friends have left the game months ago and don't seem the least tempted to return, at least not at the moment.

Finally, can't say much about the "other game" as I didn't participate in the weekend beta. Don't have the motivation to pre-purchase in order to try it out. It seems kinda cool I guess, but frankly, I'm sick and tired of the Fantasy genre. I've had it with trolls, dragons and elves in tights. I might check it out later but now I'm just happy for those who tried it and liked it; good for you and enjoy.

Me, I guess I'll stick around for a while, but as I said I'm already on the verge of what I can take from this game. Every time I see someone with a black saber I die a little inside. And if the day comes when I stop getting the Star Wars feeling from this game, then I honestly don't know.

SE

I am a big star wars fan last 20 years, and I'll be never plays in pvp game if it was not star wars.

You're right. As an old school gamer I know how games USED to be, but that is in the past. I grew up with Quake, Unreal, Rainbow Six, and Counter Strike (it was a free mod then). Hell I had a Dragonball Z quake mod... probably the coolest mod I have seen besides Counter Strike...

The problem is that we are so used to having progression in every game we get now. That it is the norm and I have a hard time believing that the vast majority of people will play a game that doesn't have it for very long. There is a reason that Call of Duty, Battlefield and Halo all have character progression now. It isn't to appease the hardcore PvPer's. It's to get everyone else to play and stay playing because that is the only hook that will last.