Dear Expertise, You Are Terrible

You sir, win a cookie. Not only does expertise provide a fairly level playing feild, it also allows the devs to reduce and increase damage and mitigation by modifying the stat.

What's the big issue anyways? Are people honestly all up about not being able to wear Columni/Rakata gear? Is that it? If you want the nice gear for PvP then PvP! A fresh 50 should be starting with 2 pieces of BM and a full recruit set, which gives a pretty nice amount of expertise to compete.

Expertise makes it possible for the developers to make changes to PvP without throwing off the balance of PvE.

Seems to me, people really don't understand why PVP gear and PVE gear should be, and remain separate entities. You want to go and raid, you do that, but you walk into a war zone in PVE gear, against people who have worked hard for their PVP gear, with the Expertise, that is for use and effective 'only' in PVP mode of play, then expect to be gimped. Build a PVP set, and play. I got a PVE set, and a PVP gear set, I really don't see what's so difficult about this ?

The difference with Battlemaster geared players playing PVE content, and getting through it, is not that huge a deal either, I have used my stalker gear in PVE mode after 1.2, and do not believe that I have any huge advantage over some one who has proper PVE gear, I swear, people who think that we can just walk through PVE content like that, really need to try both PVP and PVE sets out for themselves, because there is no huge advantage there or anything close.

Completely agree Expertise is NOT needed at all to provide a good PVP experience.

The OPs suggestions to rebalance the gear to provide both PVE and PVP players equal level of stats is the best way forward. We are only a few months into the game and the gap between gear has increased significantly.

This was an issue in Wow as it was introduced so late in the game development that this stat was needed to rebalance the game, but even there it caused some big issues. Here we have a new game that could have been designed with PVP in mind from the start - not using a special stat to try to provide balance.

What does Expertise result in:
- Players not having fun in warzones
- Players being forced to spend more and more time in PVP simply to get to a competative level. This is an MMORPG after all??
- Player segregation PVE vs PVP camps
- Less people queuing for warzones in the long term.
- The need for two individual sets of gear and having to change this each time you enter warzones.
- Players with no skills, simply owning everyone else coming up under them.
- A game that has nothing to do with player skills only what gear they have grind.
- A game where your gear determines the winning team.
- Massive amounts of players leaving warzones in progress due to their disatisfaction.
- Faction who gets ahead of the other will always have a clear advantage and sped up progression where as the loosing faction will need to work harder. This will get worse over time.

Game needs to cater for those who primarily PVP and those that primarily PVE. Gear progression is needed in the game but the balance needs to be there to allow PVE to compete in PVP and likewise for PVP to compete in PVE content. Game still needs progression paths for both but does not need Expertise to distinguish and segregate. This way you can still solely PVP and get good gear and not worry about coming across a high end PVE as you can get the same.

Those that PVP as their mainstay in this game should have advantages over PVE, but this advantage should be down to their knowledge and experience in the warzones and how to play their character, not simply because they have spend xx hrs and got their War Hero gear.

To all those comments that say, nut up or shut up, this is the way it works so join the club, or you just don't understand how it works, must be a noob .. well I think we do understand .. we simply don't accept this is the best system we could have. It has its flaws and needs improvement before everyone stops queuing. There is a reason why there has been so many threads on this topic .. as it is a primary concern that is yet to be addressed.

Prior to hitting L50 myself, I was almost always queued for a match, but now even with my Expertise gear the level differences between players at L50 is far too large and find swinging my lightsabres at a player for several mins without denting their health by any decent mark is futile. Its not that I dont know how to play, or know the strengths of my character, I simply am outgunned. Likewise vs a healer, they can outheal any damage I throw at them and cannot be intruppted or stunned for long enough to break them down.

The other player has got to be sitting back laughing at my attempts as they clock their 50+ kills... I still question how much fun it can be for them to steam roll the opposing force without competition... surely they would also like a good competitive and engaging game right??

Not meaning to pick on you, but if I read the post correctly, you should expect to be gimped in PvP if you use PvE gear, but then you go on to say that Using PvP gear in PvE, you don't feel as if you have an advantage. You shouldn't then, you should feel gimped in PVE content.

PvE gear in PvP = Gimped.
but PvP gear in PVE = No Advantage, but about equal.
Should be (according to the seperate camps model) PvP gear in PvE = Gimped.