Some players bail too easy in PvP

this statment is way off. i can see maybe 13k but for the most part 16k is full BM gear. i play a Vig Gaurdian in full BM gear with 16.5k buffed HP. i guess there are a ton of people like you that no amount of HP is good enough for people to have for them. some people just think if you are not in max gear that you dont belong in the que. funny thing is you had to do the same grind as the these people and were once at 13 to 14k HP. not liek you join a PvP match for the first time with 20k. i dont get why you would give others a hard time when they are trying to grind out the gear.

one guy today said in chat that no one under 18k is worth a damn and he just would not shut up about it. blaming people for something they have no controll over is idiotic.

but, but...

who would you blame when you keep losing?!

maybe if you, who call others ADD, checked back a page or two in this thread you'd notice my other posts.

ive said it very clearly.

i will give the same effort my team puts forth. if its a close match, even if it ends up a loss, i have zero problem with that and will stick around and do my best.

but if i get jammed in with a team that is so uncoordinated and/or clueless about the objectives that we're 3 capped within the first couple minutes of ald, or the score in huttball is 0-3 in less than 2 minutes...

you get what you give. you give me nothing, you'll get nothing in return.

and i take back what i said... i won't stop pvping. instead ill just sit and afk in a corner. chances are i won't get vote kicked that often because the teams i leave are so damn uncoordinated that i doubt they could even get enough votes together to boot me before the match ends.

you want to drag me down and force me to play on your level by putting in deserter debuffs, that's fine with me... i have a tv right next to my pc. i can watch a flick and still contribute more to a win than you. but, if possible, ill do everything i can to make sure you lose. not that it would take much effort, since if you had had a chance of winning in the first place i wouldn't have considered leaving the match.

i would have been content to let you suck on your own, but since you insist on dragging me down with you... you'll get the opportunity to reap what you sow. enjoy.

I want to restate my ORIGINAL POINT: If you quit because the other team scored the first point then YOU are a QUITER, LOSER and SELFISH and you need to get over yourself.

Example of why to stick around - In a Novare Coast match the other team was up 75% to 2%. We were able to take and hold 2 of the bunkers and ended with a comeback win.

BTW - If all the "good" players quit at the 1st sign of a challenge then how are the others going to learn and get better. Try helping fellow Reps or Imps out and increase the pool of good players. It starts with communication. Helping others helps yourself.

I never leave wz's no matter how bad it is but God knows I completely understand why people do. Had a pug in novare coast where we couldn't even hold one node and the repubs in the end were practically camping our exit/entry point. I hope bio ware has cross server pvp or at least merge servers as the same people queuing their premades surely can't think that farming the same random pugs is a viable thing going forward.

This. But what does irritate me about quitters is that it makes it even more difficult for minted 50'es to get better gear as their chance for getting medals and commendations drop drastically in that fight.

I never leave WZ either unless my char is bugged or something like that.

A faceroll win is really not as fun as a hard fought lose. You get gear faster by keep winning. But in the long run we will all be geared so do your best every game and enjoy the hard fights.

Winning a close game and made key contribution is no doubt the best though.

heh, a deserter debuff won't work. It will actually make the problem much worse in that the "bailers" will become "afk'ers". At least now when they bail you get someone else from the queue, hopefully fast. You watch. There will be 4 or 5 players auto-running into a corner in huttball most matches. Same thing happened in WoW. How quickly people forget.

10-20minute deserter lockout from warzones might do the trick. It's worth doing for sure, all these crying bads that quit constantly are quite annoying.

I never believed in quitting a game pre-1.2, because I understood that people needed games to get geared up.

However, nowadays when I see >3 people with sub-400 expertise in my team, I just give up and leave. If they are too lazy to buy recruit gear, then I don't have the willpower anymore to carry them through.