Dear Expertise, You Are Terrible

If you do that you will have to go by rank, because what people will do is Lower their expertise so they can get in the easier warzones and smash on new recruits when they have like 4 pieces are warhero and the rest as Rakata/campaign or Super Modded gear. With the type of players people are complaining about I see this happening.

True, but they could implement a lock system when you get "promoted" above your tier so you can't go back down. Obviously there will be exploits and flaws but from what I've seen so far, new 50s even with Recruit gear don't stand much of a chance against the others.

Nothing to discuss. Expertise is a crutch for those that have no skill. The challenge in pvp is supposed to come from battling a thinking player that can react to your moves. Good going Bioware in removing skill from pvp, bravo.

Expertise makes it possible for the developers to make changes to PvP without throwing off the balance of PvE.

Yes, I'm completely bad and unskilled because I hit for half the damage. Cool.

OH that sounds like the best solution .. sounds like you might be part of the PVP design team huh?

You know that there could be other solutions to encourage players to play PVP right?

I can handle spending the credits, I can handle time spent for progression but I cannot handle the biased, uneven playfield that Expertise results in. It is clearly a poor solution.

Well at the moment atleast Heroics are some fun even though they are super easy to finish even with the basic Recuit gear LOL. Same cannot be said for the warzones.

You sir, win a cookie. Not only does expertise provide a fairly level playing feild, it also allows the devs to reduce and increase damage and mitigation by modifying the stat.

What's the big issue anyways? Are people honestly all up about not being able to wear Columni/Rakata gear? Is that it? If you want the nice gear for PvP then PvP! A fresh 50 should be starting with 2 pieces of BM and a full recruit set, which gives a pretty nice amount of expertise to compete.

Expertise or any other crutch stat is a bad idea. Balance the game pvp first then adjust the pve accordingly. Who cares if you have to adjust the mobs or encounters HPs or DPS but go screwing with players and their gear and you have problems.

Pre 50 pvp > 50 pvp

PVP should be about skill and not about gear

My hats off to the people who came up with Bolster, the fact that buff can balance such a wide range of level and gear is amazing. I find pre 50 pvp to be much more fair and about skill then about gear.

People who say Expertise is functioning as intended.... sure it is, to split the player base from pvp and pve players. This is a mistake when the player base is shrinking. Expertise will be the undoing.

What is wrong with allowing gear to be viable pvp and pve? why the need to separate the player base? If you complain about WZ Q's taking too long or not enough on during off hours this could be part of the reason and splitting the base just hurts everything in the long run.

I have 2 lvl 50 BM geared toons and am in the process of starting 2 other toons as I enjoyed the skill based play of the pre 50 pvp over the gear based 50 pvp.

Those who support a crutch stat like expertise obviously are afraid of skill being the determining factor in pvp.

Take a look at how well the pre50 pvp runs and plays compared to the expertise driven 50 pvp

BOO to Expertise and Bravo to Bolster

Continue to split the player base and see how long WZ Q's start taking... Works as intended....

Oh yet another one of these...

Yes its meant to keep pvp and pve gearing separated so there are two different gear progressions in the game, news flash even if they got rid of expertise you would STILL die to people who had the best gear regardless.

I think you actually mean to complain about the fact this is a item based game.

No. Just no. You don't balance a game around PvP. The majority of the players are PvE based and re balancing hundreds of mobs takes a little more time than tweaking a stat like expertise.

Edit: About skill and not gear? Opening up the gear tiers to everything in PvE would absolutely make it more about gear than anything else. As it is there are really only two tiers of PvP gear: BM and WH. If you do any decent amount of PvP you should be sitting in full BM in two weeks.