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If 1.3 Isn't Out by May - Will You Unsub?

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If 1.3 Isn't Out by May - Will You Unsub?

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Lord_Epping
04.29.2012 , 10:53 AM | #471
Quote: Originally Posted by cshouston View Post
How much did your rose-tinted glasses cost?
The way James Ohlen spinned the fact that the development team was staying on after launch as a good thing was pretty slick. The original development team is still going after launch because the game is NOT FINISHED, and they're still trying to finish and implement their original design. We're being charged a monthly fee to play a beta, essentially. I'm sure the lion's share of the blame lays with EA though.
Wouldn't be surprised by this assuming it is true. After having its deadline extended so much during development, its possible, if not likely, that EA decided to lock the launch date even if the game was not 100% finished or bug-free.

While it is true for most games, I understand that the addition of a subscription fee makes it a bit harder to excuse.

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DieAlteHexe
04.29.2012 , 10:55 AM | #472
Quote: Originally Posted by cshouston View Post
You, unsurprisingly, missed the point. If the engineers at BioWare had designed their own engine and were intimately aware of its ins-and-outs, there would probably be fewer overall issues. Deciding to take the cheap route and licensing an unfinished and untested engine just because it was made by some executive's friends is quite possibly ruining this game. I would not want to be one of the programmers over there trying to figure out a new engine with next to no commenting or documentation.
Well, assuming you are correct (and I'm not sure that you are)....hindsight is always a lovely thing.

It is beginning to seem to me that, and I mean no offense here, this is not the game for you. Look, I know how frustrating it is to really, really WANT a game to be what you would like but sometimes it just doesn't work out that way or, it takes longer than you'd like it to.
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MWidowmaker
04.29.2012 , 10:56 AM | #473
this whole thread and the premise for it is just stupid
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WrecklessMEDIC
04.29.2012 , 10:57 AM | #474
Quote: Originally Posted by cshouston View Post
How much did your rose-tinted glasses cost?

The point is, their decision to license an incomplete prototype engine in order to "get something running in a hurry" is biting them in the ***.



http://www.heroengine.com/2011/11/he...eets-starwars/

After four months of the game being "live" it's becoming more and more apparent that they're uncomfortable with the tools at their disposal.

The way James Ohlen spinned the fact that the development team was staying on after launch as a good thing was pretty slick. The original development team is still going after launch because the game is NOT FINISHED, and they're still trying to finish and implement their original design. We're being charged a monthly fee to play a beta, essentially. I'm sure the lion's share of the blame lays with EA though.
Oh god, he broke out the "we're paying to play beta" routine.....lol. Please, give it a rest already. The game will never be finished and will always have bugs. That's normal. You don't like it, then just leave and quit complaining.

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cshouston
04.29.2012 , 11:00 AM | #475
Quote: Originally Posted by WrecklessMEDIC View Post
Oh god, he broke out the "we're paying to play beta" routine.....lol. Please, give it a rest already. The game will never be finished and will always have bugs. That's normal. You don't like it, then just leave and quit complaining.
Oh shut up. You're generalizing my comment. There's a difference between an unfinished MMO, and the fact that an MMO "is never finished".
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Baxterwolfe
04.29.2012 , 11:17 AM | #476
Quote: Originally Posted by Roechacca View Post
As long as I see Bioware listening and responding to the issues in game and continue to put out "I'm sorry" shinys like free month and pets to apologies when they realize the goofed up, I'll stick with them till they get the track record set right. I can live with mistakes, it's the attitude that counts after making them.
i disagree with you about the free time and the free so called pet. in my opinion bioware should have kept that mini pet thats some thing that i will never use. that useless crap is not going to make me happy and since i did not get the 30 days oh well. i could really give a rats *** about what bioware puts in the game.

in my opinion if 1.3 is just as bad as what 1.2 turned out to be then that will cause me to cancel my sub. This legacy is absolutely horrible. The xp of the legacy does not match the xp you gain on missions and monster kills. I believe if i get 500 xp killing a monster then i should get 500 xp legacy.

The crafting system got new things but they did not fix it with all your companions can craft different things for an example if mako is doing arms tech and your droid can craft armor and both have 2 different collection skills. im not sure where you all bioware ban wagon jumpers are getting that bioware is doing great. I agree they are putting a lot of stuff in the game but what they add is horrible for some and every one else just pretends to like it.

By the way in my opinion the free time should have went only to the players that had the founder title and if you had the founder title with a level 50 then you got the free pet with a white or purple crystal of you choice and you would have received a token by in game mail the same way the titles do.

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alifaraaz
04.29.2012 , 11:23 AM | #477
I assume you mean by the end of May? No I probably wont quit, but that's probably because I wont be playing much in May due to exams :P

Honestly though, I know they said expect content to roll out month and after month...but I don't let myself believe these things until it happens. Over hyping and setting overly high expectations leads to disappointment.

My guess it maybe end of May, but most likely mid-end June. Once it's on the PTS we'll have a better idea of when it's coming out.

I have to be honest though, as many have said before - if you're not enjoying the game pre 1.2, you wont LOVE the game post 1.2. And likewise if you're not somewhat enjoying the game pre 1.3, you wont love it post 1.3.

There's a few specific things that people have continuously asked for, and thats Server merge/transfer and some type of LFG tool.

LFG tool is coming, if this tool generally makes your game from boring to enjoyable there may be a problem. You should just join a guild who runs FP's or PvP or Ops often. LFG Tool will definitely make things better, but if you're considering quiting - I would reccommend just quit until 1.3 comes, and then re-sub.

Secondly the Server transfers will come eventually, and maybe merges. Until then - Id also just say un-sub if you're not having fun. And when you can transfer your 50's to a better server, then the game could become much more fun.
Servers transfers is tbh the one thing that I would say, can turn a boring game into an amazing game.
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NDiggy
04.29.2012 , 11:43 AM | #478
I already un-subbed. There is just too much missing from this game and the Development team is clueless. The fact that tab targeting still hasn't been fixed speaks volumes about the ineptitude of the Devs. I can be standing right in front of an enemy player in a WZ, hit tab, and I'll target someone 30 yards away. It doesn't help things either that trying to click on an enemy player is just as difficult. Its frustrating to give up a cap in Voidstar or Alderaan simply because the game's targeting mechanics are so broken. When a Dev team can't even handle the simple things, how can we expect them to handle the more difficult things like PvP balance and PvE endgame OPs?
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Lightmaguz
04.29.2012 , 11:50 AM | #479
Quote: Originally Posted by Baxterwolfe View Post
and since i did not get the 30 days oh well. i could really give a rats *** about what bioware puts in the game.

This legacy is absolutely horrible. The xp of the legacy does not match the xp you gain on missions and monster kills. I believe if i get 500 xp killing a monster then i should get 500 xp legacy.

I'm pissed off at bioware and the game and how they're handling a lot of stuff but THOSE are your beefs with the game? Some people just puzzle me. They extended time so slowpokes could catch up and even included legacy level 6. The pet is not handled by the people who are handling the other stuff so... Ah forget it, logic is lacking so much I don't even know what to say anymore.


Anyway, my server's still dead, there's still no grouping tool, there's nothing Bioware can do before the free time runs out I'm afraid I'll play this game again in 1 or 2 years if at all.

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Baxterwolfe
04.29.2012 , 11:51 AM | #480
Quote: Originally Posted by Roechacca View Post
If I was customer service I'd flag everyones "JUST GO!" comments as spam. The don't like it, leave has done nothing but take subs away from this game. I don't want to see the game eventually scraped from Biodrone fanboyz that think anytime you put out an honest opinion or complaint that your calling their mom names....
I agree the Bioware fanboys needs to **** and understand that we have that right to make our opinions heard. I also agree with you on when players leave the game it make the game less populated and makes the end game stuff harder to get groups and more ghost towns. I believe that the bioware fans need to understand that before the let their mouth over ride their *** and if not i look forward to a lot more leaving due to bioware fanboy being rude and hateful