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Space Mission Difficulties


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Goretzu
04.29.2012 , 04:09 AM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
If you enjoy space missions, once you upgrade, run a few practice missions, you will be back in the happy seat once again.
The biggest problem is some of them tell you they can be done with a level of upgrades they effectively (and maybe absolutely) cannot be done with, certainly one of the mid-40's ones with just Grade 3 upgrades (and no commendations that you cannot have a L44 or whatever it is) is pretty much impossible for most people (I've still never seen a video of anyone doing it with that level of upgrades).

Grade 6 and full commendation upgrades? No problems, but that's 4-6 levels later.
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Blackardin
04.29.2012 , 04:37 AM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
The biggest problem is some of them tell you they can be done with a level of upgrades they effectively (and maybe absolutely) cannot be done with, certainly one of the mid-40's ones with just Grade 3 upgrades (and no commendations that you cannot have a L44 or whatever it is) is pretty much impossible for most people (I've still never seen a video of anyone doing it with that level of upgrades).

Grade 6 and full commendation upgrades? No problems, but that's 4-6 levels later.
"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain" LOL

Honestly, I stopped paying attention to what they say is or is not doable after my first upgrades so I don't really know if they were accurate or not. Every time I hit a level that allowed it, I upgraded fully regardless of what was or was not suggested. Never had a problem completing any of them except the last one's when I had failed to get the upgrades from the droid.

Pay no attention to that, just upgrade whenever you can.
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warultima
04.29.2012 , 05:03 AM | #63
I have all grade 5 from vendor (+purple missile clip rewarded from mission) with no EMP and no proton torpedo and blaze thru all missions including the mine field (I know EMP makes it easy mode but I've been collecting the 200 commendation a piece pilot outfit).

I am a pro in railed shooter however and played almost all similar titles. The only advise I can give is to use both of your WASD key and mouse to control movement this makes something like Barrel Roll to the right while aiming and shooting down stuff on the left possible. Also Barrel roll left or right (NOT barrel roll without positional movement) when you see on coming fighters coming at you, you will be surprised how easy the space missions in TOR are compare to most other similar titles/minigames.

I when I found out they nerfed space mission EXP tho and the 80% exp nerf to companion conversation missions. Makes my alt leveling process that much more time consuming.

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Blackardin
04.29.2012 , 05:04 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Striker_KOJ View Post
If they increased the accuracy of enemy frigates I could see why this would be a pain, especially since they continue to shoot you even after you destroy all turrets.
This part makes me laugh also. What are they doing, rolling down the windows? LOL

Again, for anyone having trouble with the end game missions, I posted a guide on the previous page that will help greatly.
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Maxil
04.29.2012 , 06:59 AM | #65
after looking over a friends shoulder who was having problems I found out what he was doing that was getting him hit so much.

He was using his mouse to move.

Most people bind over their move keys with the strafe keys. Those keys are used to steer the ship left/right , so set up some extra keys or use the arrows or anything, and use them to move left right/up down. (while it does lock into a "region" with the mouse, so some mouse movement will be needed but that occurs with aiming anyway). This along with spamming spacebar got him past the missions. (he already knew/used the ability swap methods for shields/gun power)

All space missions are doable when you get them

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Vlacke
04.29.2012 , 07:25 AM | #66
All space missions are doable without a doubt, if someone is having serious problems with them it's either because they suck really hard at it or because they are not using ship upgrades properly.

They aren't really that difficult and it's somewhat embarrassing to complain about them, especially when you consider the fact that a lot a of people want full 3d space and increased difficulty in the future.
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Agemnon
04.29.2012 , 08:23 AM | #67
I remember I kept dying too, even with all epic high end pieces (none from the comm vendor at that point and I was cybertech back then) and felt good whenever I won with only a smidge of HP left. Then I bought the thing that increases laser or shield power and it's faceroll now. Extra firepower most of the time, and extra shields to speed up regeneration during those small windows of no activity (or whenever shields are down).

I don't like how the photon torpedoes work. Where my missiles used to work they no longer do and I'd like the option to use missiles on that quest where you have to take out the shield generators, then use a photon torpedo on the command center.
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Maxil
04.29.2012 , 06:12 PM | #68
I was meaning to ask if they ever adjusted the way torpedo's worked, as people have voiced their issues with them for some time. Do they still overwrite missile use once you use them? I sold mine off and never bothered to get them ever again after I realized how they worked.

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metalgearyoda
04.29.2012 , 06:17 PM | #69
I've managed to beat all 3 lv 50 missions without taking toughness damage with stock (5) upgrades.

You just have to manage your cool downs.

Once you have it figured out, you won't just beat the missions, but could do them without paying much attention.
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Cerion
04.29.2012 , 06:31 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Vagessel View Post
Oh, past level 40 I don't even bother to do those anymore. It's this simple- the effort / work / misery ratio to reward is nonexistent. I'm not going to engage on a 6 minute mission where all my senses are strung up just to have it all destroyed at 5:90 minutes LOL. and for what?

I am quite sure they are very aware of this but regard it as super low priority ( after all "most people" hate space combat, right ?) I bet their space combat participation graphs take a 90 degree crash in participation past level 40.
This touches on something I was curious about. I'm sure their metrics show a high degree of participation in the space-on-rails game...but how do their metrics measure if these people are actually having fun?

I mean, after 4 months of abstaining from Space Combat, I broke down and began playing it so that I could earn enough comms for the rare crafting mats. I don't particularly enjoy the gameplay (no free flying) nor the maps since they are repeated.

But I've noticed the difficulty too, even at my lowly level. It all feels extremely gear dependent.
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