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Supply Way Up; Demand Way Down.

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Valkirus
04.28.2012 , 09:35 PM | #31
I think crafting in TOR is pretty weak myself. I have my professions maxed out on my Jedi Shadow at level 50...but everything he is wearing now..with the exception of maybe a implant...he got from doing quests...dailies..heroics...flashpoints , etc. No need to buy anything off the GTN. The double bladed lightsaber he has for example is far better than the one he can make for himself..:P
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Cerion
04.28.2012 , 10:23 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Styxx View Post
Here`s the newsflash.. there isn`t a dysfunctional GTN. It lists what you put on it.

ANYONE with ONE brain cell would and SHOULD check for ALL sources of the product she/he needs to buy. If anything, the guy in general advertising is desperate.

How a smart buyer should proceed: take all into consideration, but DO NOT take general as gospel. SO she/he goes to GTN and looks up the prices for the product.

Thus, it will STILL see the price and pick the lowest one. NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

However, IF the buyer is goaded or convinced to NOT look on GTN, then the seller is smart. The buyer might pass a better offer on the GTN that he SHOULD check in the first place, to see if the advertised price is really the best, or bogus.

We have a non-problem. Smart buyers will always check for the smallest price on GTN. Not too smart deserve every scam that can be pulled against them.

[EDIT]Case study: How about if I am looking for an assault cannon augmented? Let`s assume I see everything listed for 500k a piece. That is over-optimistic pricing, since it`s normal price is no more than 150k. I will start advertising WTB with my price (for the sake of argument, I will try to buy at the correct price, not capitalize on the fact that they aren`t selling and force a lower price). It is my right and necessity, to try the water for the smart guy that wants to actually sell, not bank on my unexistent stupidity.

Am I not allowed or even excused for trying to secure a FAIR deal for me, on an obvious overinflated price, based on "let`s lower 1 credit from the lowest price?". Because there is no chance in Hell I will buy at anything higher than 10% of what the correct price is.
Why the hostility? sheesh. Nobody is arguing fair market price. Only you are, lol.

Here's a case study for you in return: As a buyer, I want to buy 5 purple Battle Enhancements. I cannot find them on my GTN. One will trickle in over the week, then another. I don't want to stand on Fleet spending my gaming time spamming General WTB 5 Purple Battle Enhancements. Chances are, no one will have five of them made anyway. What I would like is to set up a work order via a UI that says "Looking for 5 Grade 22 Battle Enhancements - 45k each (Or alternately a bid contract between two crafters.) A crafter (or several) can fill this work order. Boom. Done. I don't have to spam General. I can go on missions, run dailies.

Now this is a long term solution. OP is looking for short term solutions, one of which is to encourage players to buy crafted gear/items. By all means, find the BEST price from within those crafted items. Nobody is saying otherwise.

edit: I do stand corrected. The OP in a subsequent post has one sentence about items being overpriced. It is only overpriced if someone isn't buying. Having said that, I think the more important take away from the OP is a GTN that isn't as useful as it could be.
Good will always triumph because Evil is lazy.

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Cerion
04.28.2012 , 10:30 PM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
I think crafting in TOR is pretty weak myself. I have my professions maxed out on my Jedi Shadow at level 50...but everything he is wearing now..with the exception of maybe a implant...he got from doing quests...dailies..heroics...flashpoints , etc. No need to buy anything off the GTN. The double bladed lightsaber he has for example is far better than the one he can make for himself..:P
Here's a question for you. At 50, I cannot find mods (wish they change the name so as not to confuse with the general term of modifications) I want. Yeah, I can run daillies and get commendations for hilt, armor...but nobody sells mods or enhancements for daily comms (that I know of anyway...maybe I'm blind?). I don't do heroics nor flashpoints. As a solo player, I do rely on the GTN and crafters for nearly 50% of my items/mods.
Good will always triumph because Evil is lazy.

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Deyjarl
04.28.2012 , 10:50 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by Kaphik View Post
So, you want BioWare to do something about people actually interacting with other people to foster an economy because you are having a hard time competing with them? Seriously?
No that is just your strawman.

More likely he is suggesting more crafting options.

Except for Bio, and Cybertech, the other crafts have no disposable items to sell on the endgame. Once everyone has their augments, they'll just pull them out and move them.
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Cerion
04.28.2012 , 11:01 PM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by Deyjarl View Post
No that is just your strawman.

More likely he is suggesting more crafting options.

Except for Bio, and Cybertech, the other crafts have no disposable items to sell on the endgame. Once everyone has their augments, they'll just pull them out and move them.
Do I hear the mumblings of item decay in your post? I'm ambivalent about such a system....
Good will always triumph because Evil is lazy.

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Roccobb
04.28.2012 , 11:03 PM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by Maurdiib View Post
Normally I don't do this sort of thing, but, can you read? Seriously?

There is no competition on the GTN anymore. As the title of my post suggests. Who can I compete with if the demand is gone for almost everything? Server populations are dwindling and the flow of goods has almost stopped. And you, based on the subtext of your post, suggest that the spamming of vastly overpriced items on General Chat is a good thing; a practice that ruins MMOs.

I'm not asking anything from Bioware. I'm asking the community if we can do something about ti ourselves.

Lastly, there is no competing with people who farm items and then hyper-inflate the value of things. Why should anyone be having to pay a quarter million credits for a level 20 item you'd find as a reward for a quest on Coruscant?

Once again, please learn to read. I'm bringing up a valid topic, and all you have to offer is a carelessly articulated, smug put-down.
If you see something in trade chat being sold for higher prices and you can make it, then just say that in trade chat. Say hey, I have that listed on gtn for x.

But we really need a request network. If I want a certain item crafted, I would post it on the market, and how much I am willing to pay. If a crafted thinks it is worth it, they would fill my order. If they don't, then the request would be deleted.
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SajmanPeetee
04.28.2012 , 11:07 PM | #37
Well, buying anything 1-49 is a waste because you outlevel it so quickly. Buying anything unaugmented is a waste because augmented items sell for 75-100k and it takes less than 30 minutes to farm that.

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Roccobb
04.28.2012 , 11:15 PM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by SajmanPeetee View Post
Well, buying anything 1-49 is a waste because you outlevel it so quickly. Buying anything unaugmented is a waste because augmented items sell for 75-100k and it takes less than 30 minutes to farm that.
On your server they go.for that... Why do people assume prices are the same on all.servers????
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SwordofSodan
04.28.2012 , 11:44 PM | #39
Nobody is buying anything because nobody has any dam loose credits to throw around! Bioware is *********** everyone up the *** with their stupid *********** credit sinks everywhere. On top of that douchbags who play the GTN are listing crap for ridiculous prices that most can't afford--this isn't Eve Online!!! Eve marketplace supports thousands and thousands of people at once, not a measly couple hundred on a pathetically puney server.

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TonyBing
04.29.2012 , 01:23 AM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
I think crafting in TOR is pretty weak myself. I have my professions maxed out on my Jedi Shadow at level 50...but everything he is wearing now..with the exception of maybe a implant...he got from doing quests...dailies..heroics...flashpoints , etc. No need to buy anything off the GTN. The double bladed lightsaber he has for example is far better than the one he can make for himself..:P
Not true best lightsaber in the game would be a combination of crafting and purple drop for FP/OP. (Orange crit with FP/OP's mods).