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Not another WoW PLEASE!!!


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Sarfux
04.28.2012 , 06:57 PM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by celebrei View Post
And none of the things you listed are present atm

coming in 1.3 and 1.4 Every single one of em
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siegedeluxe
04.28.2012 , 06:58 PM | #122
Quote: Originally Posted by RachelAnne View Post
You clearly lack the experience and confidence that a person doesnt need to have the spec of "Nihilum & co" to be successfull in this game or at wow.

All that "must have 30/21 of Kungen for pve" is just an illusion and made up by people who are not so good and think that their poor performance is because of a spec, item lvl or similar things.

The only people that really need a perfect spec, a dps meter etc. are those that get paid for playing games - those in a professionel environment.

I never ever needed dual spec, addons etc. while I was playing semi professionel pve and pvp at wow (except raid assist) , so to demand that those casuals who are the majority in those games now must have all these professionel tools is just wrong, There is simply no need for it, especially if you look at the low difficulty at wow.


Also I fail to see why a LFG tool does help people. To wait 30 min and then getting into a dungeon that you cant finish due low skilled players, or where you instantly get kicked, is not really an improvement. There is a reason why Blizz tries to force people into the dungeon finder, all these little boni or punishments aka deserter wouldnt be necessary if the tool would be so great.
No one gets instantly kicked. (And if you got kicked, it probably was for a good reason).

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siegedeluxe
04.28.2012 , 06:59 PM | #123
Quote: Originally Posted by Sarfux View Post

coming in 1.3 and 1.4 Every single one of em
Keep dreaming...

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HereInPlainSight
04.28.2012 , 07:00 PM | #124
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Fortunately BW is staying old school for the most part. LFG will be single server-only.
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If macros are ever allowed we've been told they will NOT be usable for combat.
Do you have a direct link to that or anything perchance? Personally I'm only worried about two things. First, mouseover macros (in lieu of an addon, but as I've said before I find for healing I prefer mouseovers over keyboard jockeying). Secondly with so many skills, I usually make some macros that if I hold say alt, the buttons are different. This can all be done by directly binding to sidebars I'm sure, but it's just a personal preference to have everything on the main two bars and mapped with macros to keep some space open for other things on the sidebars.

I'm not interested at all in advanced bot-your-character macros. I just want what I consider to be the basics.

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GalacticKegger
04.28.2012 , 07:02 PM | #125
Quote: Originally Posted by HereInPlainSight View Post
\o/Do you have a direct link to that or anything perchance?
I do, I just have to find it. I'll post it once I dig it up.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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TKMaster
04.28.2012 , 07:07 PM | #126
Quote: Originally Posted by Scerion View Post
I always find these "Without X, Y wouldn't exist" statements ridiculous. Without your dad, you wouldn't exist. Does that mean that anything you achieve during your life is all down to your father? Of course not.

Saying Everquest is the reason WoW exists is just as stupid. They share no code at all, no backend infrastucture, or artwork. They're both MMO's, that's about it. People get nostalgic about old MMO's, but without the rose tinted glasses, they have to be seen as what they were - a bit crap really. Especially compared to today's games.

I own several old arcade machines from the 80's and 90's. I love playing Centipede, Metal Slug, etc, but they're nowhere near the technical achievement of something like Mass Effect 3.

People are asking for things used in WoW for a reason: They work! There's a reason WoW has 10 million or so subs while SWTOR has under a million (as it's rumoured) - the reason is that they're doing stuff players like. If players didn't like it, they'd all leave. I left WoW, and I left SWTOR - but I played WoW for about 7 years, and only played SWTOR for a few months before I got bored of it and irritated at bugs and other issues. Bit of a difference.
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Lord_Ravenhurst
04.28.2012 , 07:24 PM | #127
ToR needs a NGE in the good way, getting away from the dreaded WOW concept for good. This concept is old, it is outdated, it has been copied numerous times, the majority is sick of it and wants a fresh approach to MMOs and something which fits to the star wars IP. I've got 50 days left to keep telling you that, and if TOR sticks to that concept I'll never resubscribe, and I know many others have the same opinion. Read reviews on amazon, check my polls, check the forum, check other forums. I know it is a fact.

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metalgearyoda
04.28.2012 , 07:57 PM | #128
Quote: Originally Posted by siegedeluxe View Post
Keep dreaming...
Well, first off. Addons are already in.

ACT, Mox, ect

Mostly realtime dps meters for you and your raid.

And second,

Yeah. 1.3/4 is going to have a lot of those things if not all.

I suppose this is where I tell you to keep dreaming?
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Hyfy
04.28.2012 , 08:41 PM | #129
Quote: Originally Posted by Lt_Latency View Post
Then you should show a decent amount of damage and it's not a issue is it.
I don't have to prove a damned thing too you, is the point. just because someone is too ignorant to recognize that is not my fault. And is the exact reason why stupid **** like that needs to not be implemented. But as I have said before, it does end up serving at least 1 helpful purpose for me. It shows me who is incapable of running in anything but a perfect group dynamic, and ultimately who I need to avoid. Because lets face it, this game isn't all that hard and if you need to not only min/max your toon, but quantify your group applicants with their gear make up to make up for your inadequacies then I don't want to run with you.

But hey way to absolutely avoid the actual content of my post with your strawman argument. Feel free to PM me your server and toon names so I can be sure to avoid them in the future.
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Valkirus
04.28.2012 , 08:53 PM | #130
Quote: Originally Posted by RachelAnne View Post
I never ever needed dual spec, addons etc. while I was playing semi professionel pve and pvp at wow (except raid assist) , so to demand that those casuals who are the majority in those games now must have all these professionel tools is just wrong, There is simply no need for it, especially if you look at the low difficulty at wow.


Also I fail to see why a LFG tool does help people. To wait 30 min and then getting into a dungeon that you cant finish due low skilled players, or where you instantly get kicked, is not really an improvement. There is a reason why Blizz tries to force people into the dungeon finder, all these little boni or punishments aka deserter wouldnt be necessary if the tool would be so great.
Huh? You obvously donot know much about WoW. All of the hardcore raiding guilds require as a min DBM and Vent. And the LFG tool is used alot and allows many casual players to experence content which otherwise they never would be able to. With LFR ( Looking for Raid ) I can run the end game content in Cata ( Deathwing ) on 6 chars each per week. And have for weeks without any addons or mods or Vent even. But Blizz does not force players into it. There are still plenty of normal and heroic raids going on if that is your thing and you " choose" to be in a raiding guild and are willing to make the sacrifices.
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