Not another WoW PLEASE!!!

Of course WoW didn't "just happen". As I said, I know Blizzard have taken ideas from all over the place. The same can be said of any modern company. Google didn't just happen either. They just made a better search engine. Blizzard made the best MMO by far (at the time) and so people stopped playing the others, and played WoW instead. I won't stop driving my car because through some twisted logic someone clams it's all based on a horse and cart. Games Workshop didn't actually invent Orcs either.

I always find these "Without X, Y wouldn't exist" statements ridiculous. Without your dad, you wouldn't exist. Does that mean that anything you achieve during your life is all down to your father? Of course not.

Saying Everquest is the reason WoW exists is just as stupid. They share no code at all, no backend infrastucture, or artwork. They're both MMO's, that's about it. People get nostalgic about old MMO's, but without the rose tinted glasses, they have to be seen as what they were - a bit crap really. Especially compared to today's games.

I own several old arcade machines from the 80's and 90's. I love playing Centipede, Metal Slug, etc, but they're nowhere near the technical achievement of something like Mass Effect 3.

People are asking for things used in WoW for a reason: They work! There's a reason WoW has 10 million or so subs while SWTOR has under a million (as it's rumoured) - the reason is that they're doing stuff players like. If players didn't like it, they'd all leave. I left WoW, and I left SWTOR - but I played WoW for about 7 years, and only played SWTOR for a few months before I got bored of it and irritated at bugs and other issues. Bit of a difference.

That's your opinion. For the vast majority of people, hierlooms are very convenient. They speed up levelling alts, and allow the player to level without worrying about gear all the time. It's actually beneficial to new players as well, as there's less competition for loot if some players in a party already have heirlooms, so don't need any gear.


Yet again another "WoW is dead" prediction. It won't be "dead" - in fact it'll still be going for years as yet whether you like it or not. I don't play it any more, but I still have a lot of friends that do. I no longer know anyone in RL playing SWTOR - one of the reasons I left. The server I was on pretty much is dead. You could try another server... genius

With the panda/Pokemon expansion, Blizzard are obviously going after a different market.. I'm sure they've researched it and it'll push up subs, not drop them.

One thing I do believe is a good idea (and Blizzard never added) is to allow the player to choose whether to queue for cross-realm dungeon finder, or just queue on their own server. Cross-realm groups did serious damage to the community in WoW - and will in any MMO.

Yes, I do know what Games Workshop is. It has nothing to do with the creation of WoW. Certainly Blizzard's taken ideas from all over the place. So has every other company. Star Wars wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Flash Gordon I guess? After all, that had spaceships, so Lucas MUST have based it all on that.

Are you serious? This game is a WoW clone, just done on a smaller scale like Rift.... You start off taking quest from an NPC that holds your hand thru the follow the breadcrumb trail from one quest hub to the next.. All the way to End-Game where you grind dailies and flashpoints to get better gear to do raids, then only to turn around and do the same thing over gain under hard mode........ THIS IS WOW in a sci-fi skin.. Lets not fool ourselves or others.. lol

meters that show the whole party in real time are already in.

Check out http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...-Damage-Parser

The problem is

Group finder > 1.3
xserver WZs > 1.2.2 probably.
Duel spec -> 1.3.2-1.4 probably.

All these things were added for very good reasons in WoW and dealt with very real problems SW:Tor has now. Blizzard actual tried to resist them and find ways to not use them at the start. But once there were in they all became very popular.

These are items you should have just learn from watch games before you why they are important.

I wish BW would have had the guts to keep Tor away from wow - and build a community of players that are a bit older and follow the original way of playing MMO´s...