Not another WoW PLEASE!!!

People also quit when they don't get to play.

For rated to work, You NEED to have many teams, If the top rated team is playing and I KNOW I can't beat them and have more then a 1 and 4 chance of playing them because there are only 4 teams playing. I'm going to stop.

Same things happens for us, When we start seeing the premade teams we know are really really good, things get really really bad until the log off, Because we know we are probably going to get matched against them 1/3 to 1/2 of the time.

If you have 40 teams to pick from, You can match the team skills much better.



The more teams you have, The better chance your going to be able to match 2 teams of equal skill because there are more option to pick from.


People do not want to set up matches and plan seduels, They want to play. You can do a player run system if you really want to do the matching yourself

I really don't think BW is trying to take down WOW. It would be near impossible, sadly, for a story-based pve-centric game to take down a game like WOW anytime soon. Expansions take a lot cause of VO, so true xpacs prolly will be big deals, and rare. I really don't think that any game really is designed as WOW killers. Hell, WOW isn't even the origional MMO.

Some content requires a certain item level or quality of gear to run, there is nothing wrong with not wanting to dragg dead weight through a flashpoint or operation, this game seems to be full of bad players that are scared of recount and wish to be carried because they dont know how to play there class.

Some of WoW's concepts were good... but also min/maxers tend to abuse them...

Good Ideas
Dual Spec: despite many outcrys against it as someone enjoys healing for friends but, is usually dps for rest of the time, i think is good both for healers/tanks and to ease leveling in general. Is nothing wrong with this feature and people are against it just confuse/baffle me to some degree...

Dungeon Finder: while this is a touch subject the dungeon finder itself was never a bad thing, was actually whole cross servers bit that made it bad. At its core the dungeon finder does what we do in general chat only easier, faster, and more effiencly! the problem came in when you toss cross server in and chances of seeing people your with again are so low you can act like an ****** and get away with it. Thus as long as its server based no need to make it cross servers.

Transfers: probably needed at this point... are some on dead servers and others who want to move to other servers, with out a reroll do TO just how much work is involved in a legacy now is pretty massive... and nothing wrong with this at all!

Bad ideas...

Addons: the issue with them is once you let them into your game, they start to make boss encounters about watching bars, meters, and other none sense rather then actually playing the game. Is a DAMN good reason i never played with boss mods, damage meters, threat meters ect and its because it generally made game more about numbers and bars then actually whats going on around you...and i was FULLY able to tank every encounter in every dungeon i played with out issues and i had fun!

Damage Meter: is one of this ify situations... on the one hand damage meters allow players to figure out whats doing most damage, it also helps players explain to devs why X power may need tweaked or when its broke. They can also help players figure out the best rotations.....the problem becomes! when people are STARING at there dps in a boss fight instead of actually paying attention! i think having a parse after combat is fine, but DO not allow them to appear in combat... they arent all evil but again can be abused by elitists...

Threat Meters: not even going to explain this more then... it makes tanking a joke...

Cross Server ANYTHING!: this is really what killed WoW... cross servers destroyed community, conversation, unity, and allowed people to be *****s with no consequences. This single handedly is what killed WoW while SOUNDS fine at first it is worst possible thing can happen to TOR...

Same Faction pvp: going to toss this in while WoW never did this... TOR did and i am going to outright say it TERRIBLE HORRIBLE IDEA! has single handedly ruined immersion of the game...why in gods name am i fighting my own faction? even sith can not attack each other openly! its against the sith laws.... so entire concept is TERRIBLE! doing huttball all day every day is old now, and frankly i hope they just merge servers, and balance them out and get rid of this idea...

my thoughts on it anyway...

Ans you dont think the whiners and criers and vocal minority wont migrate there (and to every other MMO released) and attempt to do the same?

I'm not disagreeing. That said, historically cross-server Battlegrounds have not addressed the issues you voiced. It's unlikely they would be effective in SWTOR; cross-server Warzones would simply be an attempt to treat the symptoms, rather than seeking to identify and correct the source of the problem. Their impact on the issues you defined would be temporary and negligible at best.
A faulty argument. Those in rated teams are invested in their play style. If they're currently not good enough to overcome top contenders they get better. You're attempting to apply WoW's concept of rated PvP to to all games, but there are reasons why WoW's implementation has been widely criticized and is generally not viewed as a true rated system. There are many other alternative and more popular system utilized in the industry, and Bioware could just as easily adopt one of them for SWTOR.

That said, I did state there are reasons why cross-server Warzones may prove a boon for rated play. It simply would not be beneficial for casual Warzones, though.

Just a tiny fraction of players wanted this to be a WoW clone. It´s a real disaster that they went for this concept and did not combine it with new concepts or at least some SWG concepts.

How is it any different in SW:ToR every game people are quitting and yelling and screaming at each other. I'm my opinion the community is total the same as WoWs.

Another WoW kid that doesnt know the genre was around for years before WoW and that the original WoW devs were Diablo programers over at Blizz that kept missing deadlines due to spending all night playing EQ.

So I basically agree with you except that for addons, we can keep the no addons situation if we get mouseover macros. Please, I'm a keyboard junkie, but healing with mouseover macros just makes life happy. It's how I play.

I don't want macros that can automate gameplay.

I just want mouseover macros, and I will be happy.

And to highlight, yes please for transfers. No, please no for cross-realm. Please, please, please don't do this. I want my server to have a community. My interest in WoW died with cross server stuff. Same with Rift. Please don't go the way of cross-realms. It's an oversimplified solution that just kills off an entire aspect of the game. This poster's right that I would not mind a dungeon finder IF it was not cross server.

Edit: And I have no opinion on same-faction WZs.