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To the biased Sents/Maras defending their OP class

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To the biased Sents/Maras defending their OP class

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DirtyDiggler
04.28.2012 , 03:50 AM | #331
if you take the mard/sent defenses they will be worst DPS class period.

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jolleebindu
04.28.2012 , 03:52 AM | #332
Quote: Originally Posted by Caceyn View Post
To add more to my post, you're going to have to sit there and bang with them until they pop it. If you're going toe to toe with them it sounds counter intuitive to do that but as I mentioned before it's the only thing you can do. If they go into a ravage/MS, don't turn and run from them...run strait through them. So many times I see people try and soak that damage or back peddle. If you see that channel, run strait.
channeled abilities are associated with an auto face (once they begin casting). So unless the player is specifically turning their character away, that won't work.
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Dekai
04.28.2012 , 04:54 AM | #333
Quote: Originally Posted by jolleebindu View Post
channeled abilities are associated with an auto face (once they begin casting). So unless the player is specifically turning their character away, that won't work.
There's no autoface in PvP with Ravage/Masterstrike as soon as you start to cast it. Run through them if they are not Carnage/Combat with the rooting talent.
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Odahviin
04.28.2012 , 05:31 AM | #334
Quote: Originally Posted by DirtyDiggler View Post
if you take the mard/sent defenses they will be worst DPS class period.
that is the objective of the trolls. If they can't have it why should you?

surely YOU don't believe a pure dps AC with no other utility such as healing / tanking hybrid AC's should have any incentive to roll at all?

if this troll got his way you would never see a pure dps AC at all everyone would be running a hybrid tank / healer / stealth.

just like the sniper / gunslinger the mara / sent AC only has access to dmg talent trees. They can't access tanking medals or healing medals

The roll of dps is to dps and without the defensive talents this melee class has it would never be able to pvp effectively at all.

The op of this thread isn't arguing for balance, rather imbalance.

unfortunately it's an argument made since the dawn of time by children the world over.

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otherworlder
04.28.2012 , 06:24 AM | #335
The people defending why a sentinel/marauder 'needs' this unbelievably broken ability to pvp make me... almost startled at how ignorant and one-sided people's observations can be.

Go play a dps mercenary or commando to 50, pvp with him for a few months, then come back here and tell me why mara/sents need better on-demand burst, better mobility, a ton more cc, group utility AND not only more defensive CDs but some of the best in the game (including THE best). Ranged combat does not exist in this game unless you're playing against bad PvPers who let people freecast. Any melee pvper who cannot stay in range to attack a merc/commando is awful, simply put.

Play that gimp class for a few months and you'll be back here apologizing, shame-faced. You have no idea how bad some classes have it in pvp right now or how good you have it. Play multiple classes before assuming you understand them all top to bottom. Then maybe you'll grasp how helpless many of them are against your class right now and how your get out of jail free card is far, far too over the top compared to what others get.

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Junebugs
04.28.2012 , 06:30 AM | #336
Quote: Originally Posted by otherworlder View Post
The people defending why a sentinel/marauder 'needs' this unbelievably broken ability to pvp make me... almost startled at how ignorant and one-sided people's observations can be.

Go play a dps mercenary or commando to 50, pvp with him for a few months, then come back here and tell me why mara/sents need better on-demand burst, better mobility, a ton more cc, group utility AND not only more defensive CDs but some of the best in the game (including THE best). Ranged combat does not exist in this game unless you're playing against bad PvPers who let people freecast. Any melee pvper who cannot stay in range to attack a merc/commando is awful, simply put.

Play that gimp class for a few months and you'll be back here apologizing, shame-faced. You have no idea how bad some classes have it in pvp right now or how good you have it. Play multiple classes before assuming you understand them all top to bottom. Then maybe you'll grasp how helpless many of them are against your class right now and how your get out of jail free card is far, far too over the top compared to what others get.
Seems like you are just raging.. My first character was mara and TBH with you what ever it is making this vase amount of people roll them I will give up I dont even want to play my main anymore because the huge jumps in numbers of them since this patch.

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otherworlder
04.28.2012 , 06:35 AM | #337
Quote: Originally Posted by Junebugs View Post
Seems like you are just raging.. My first character was mara and TBH with you what ever it is making this vase amount of people roll them I will give up I dont even want to play my main anymore because the huge jumps in numbers of them since this patch.
Not raging at all, just astonished. My suggestion is an honest one. People will never have a balanced viewpoint on any issue until they try both sides for themselves. I rarely play my merc anymore so my frustration can be kept to a minimum, I just use my juggernaut because he does literally everything better.

A vast amount of people are rolling your class these days for a reason. It's not a mystery. Anyone who fights your class on a regular basis knows why. I'm willing to bet most of you do also.

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Junebugs
04.28.2012 , 06:38 AM | #338
Quote: Originally Posted by otherworlder View Post
Not raging at all, just astonished. My suggestion is an honest one. People will never have a balanced viewpoint on any issue until they try both sides for themselves. I rarely play my merc anymore so my frustration can be kept to a minimum, I just use my juggernaut because he does literally everything better.

A vast amount of people are rolling your class these days for a reason. It's not a mystery. Anyone who fights your class on a regular basis knows why. I'm willing to bet most of you do also.
Really the way im thinking about it is plz nerf us because looking around you and seeing maras EVERYWHERE is not fun i hate feeling like im part of this fail flavor of the month crap

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otherworlder
04.28.2012 , 06:42 AM | #339
Quote: Originally Posted by Junebugs View Post
Really the way im thinking about it is plz nerf us because looking around you and seeing maras EVERYWHERE is not fun i hate feeling like im part of this fail flavor of the month crap
I agree with you completely. You could remove this skill completely and good mara/sents would still be a serious threat. It is simply not needed, and is encouraging many players (including a ton of bad ones) to reroll because it trumps every other defense in the game while doing sick burst damage. Those few seconds of immunity in the present insanely fast TTK environment are too much.

I'm tired of seeing nothing but lightsabers in WZs, but I completely understand why it's that way. Switching from my merc to my juggy feels like climbing out of a garbage truck and into a porsche. It's like two completely different games.

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Raansu
04.28.2012 , 06:49 AM | #340
Quote: Originally Posted by otherworlder View Post
I agree with you completely. You could remove this skill completely and good mara/sents would still be a serious threat. It is simply not needed, and is encouraging many players (including a ton of bad ones) to reroll because it trumps every other defense in the game while doing sick burst damage. Those few seconds of immunity in the present insanely fast TTK environment are too much.

I'm tired of seeing nothing but lightsabers in WZs, but I completely understand why it's that way. Switching from my merc to my juggy feels like climbing out of a garbage truck and into a porsche. It's like two completely different games.
Newsflash: Gamers are strangely surprised to see people using lightsaber wielding classes in a game titled STAR WARS! More at 11.