Orange Sabers need adjusting since they are all the same.. level 20 is same as 50.

and sabers are about as low on the "look" list as shivs or knives..you barely see them unless you purposely look close....so again the lvl 20 one is going to be the one bought the most..since it's cheaper.

For me with Artifice, the endgame relic I can craft is BoP only. Im sure other crafts have the same thing.

I have tested this. Since I do the artifice stuff for my servers GTN. The level 20 is easier to crit. Also its easier to farm the mats for, craft, able to do in bulk. Only REAL downside is that we cant RE these sabers.. would be nice.

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Also since ive been seeing alot of s/he comments, its "she" is the OP.

Now then, so basically all we have for an argument about level 20 and level 50... or any orange gear is "How it looks" doesnt that feel abit strange to anyone else who has played alot of MMOs? Dont get me wrong.. True black dye tub and Ice white in ultima online kicked ***.. but least we could dye the parts we wanted for our look.

So yea, Bioware should really make a different preview maybe for "weapons" Maybe if we could SEE it and HEAR it before we waste our time buying/crafting it. That might be ok. I just dont like the idea for some of the sabers that cost alot in pvp items or hm drops.. that if you craft it and think it sucks.. you are sol.

I mean I understand the idea is more about "Well what about if we LIKE how low level orange looks?" Yes that is a good point over all, cause if they changed up level 50 stuff, that would FORCE people to give up their "looks" that they liked. That wouldnt be fair either. (I like my Athiss armor personally) but its still not ideal to say it costs more for level 50 (or any higher level stuff) and yet it really offers no difference.

I could suggest, what if, higher level oranges, did have a diff stat? The way to help people with lower level oranges. Maybe if those could be REed into higher level versions of the same armor. Then they would gain that stat bonus. Would prevent people from losing their looks, also give crafters more to sell cause of the time it would take for them to make the new schem for that. Overall, that might help the economy too.

Well if we dont talk stats, then what could we do or add to orange shells to make them different?

Just wanted to voice out on the forums about something that has bothered me for awhile. Orange sabers, crafted pvp ones, custom ones, drops all of them are the same! Only difference is the mats needed to make them. Also maybe their look.. however thats a gripe too since you cant see a preview of the weapon.. also they all seem to look the same to me anyways..

But yea, Lets talk about crafted one.. why would anyone waste mats making a 50 one with an aug when they could make the level 20 ones with aug easier. There is no difference in the base value of the empty saber itself. That is something I feel that is a big oversight and should be adjusted personally. I mean a level 50 or even a pvp saber should have a higher base value or something different about it to make them worth crafting and using.

I mean I dont know the best way to address this, but really between previewing the weapon and allowing higher level sabers to have different stats.. would be good.

However the solution should be drop the mods in them.

There's still been a lot of effort in the game to make the other sabers look different from each other. Also, there are no two armor sets that I know of that look exactly the same as each other - they have a different color or pattern here, a missing shoulderpad there, just something to retain the "this is X, that is Y" aesthetic by looking at them.

Plus, weapons can be distinctive in stories and movies all the time - heck, even video games. While I've never played Warcraft, I know there's a sword or something called... I want to say Frostmorne or something? I'm assuming you can tell from a distance that someone has that just by how it looks. If you play a Jedi class, then you care about something as small as the flashlight on your hip, because it's your flashlight, it's your form of expression that ties together with the set of armor you're wearing.

That's just me, though.

A good solution here would be to focus on aesthetic ways to give the end game weapons an edge over the lower level counterparts, such as a lighting effect, a small npc pet linked to the weapon that follows you around, a unique sound effect, etc.