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When will there be a SERVER MERGE?

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When will there be a SERVER MERGE?

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Jaavik
04.27.2012 , 01:29 PM | #441
Quote: Originally Posted by rakuenCallisto View Post
This guy is so misinformed it's unbelievable.
Well then... please..., inform us!

I'm assuming you have more to add to this debate than just saying, "Well, you're wrong!" and stomping away?
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Jhayden
04.27.2012 , 01:32 PM | #442
I know that on the back end, character transfers are much easier then server merges, but i honestly feel that they need to do this first instead of character transfers. This will make things simpler for guilds to stay together.

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rakuenCallisto
04.27.2012 , 01:33 PM | #443
Quote: Originally Posted by Jaavik View Post
Well, please, inform us....
"so you can't really blame BIOWARE for the low population on YOUR server."

Ugh, yes I can. They made the servers like this by not properly managing them correctly.

Release game with like 10 servers. They figured it wasn't enough so added 80ish. Now the populations are spread too thin and by this time people have already lvled to 50.

Now they say merges aren't a priority and populations are fine.

Incompetence. Period. We shouldn't have to re-roll at all because the devs can't even manage their servers correctly.
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Frostvein
04.27.2012 , 01:38 PM | #444
Quote: Originally Posted by Jaavik View Post
Well then... please..., inform us!

I'm assuming you have more to add to this debate than just saying, "Well, you're wrong!" and stomping away?
Its not my obligation to server hop until I can play the game with other people.
Meanwhile, in Tera general chat -

"The sad thing is, arguing with fanbois on the forums was more entertaining than their 300 million dollar single player MMO from 2008"

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tomaaac
04.27.2012 , 01:47 PM | #445
Quote: Originally Posted by Jaavik View Post
There are more than 20 people to play with. You just have to go where they are. If low population is your issue, then move to a populated server - problem solved
So i just have to leave their precious 1.2 legacy behind, everything i have achieved and start a new on a different server just because BW don`t know how to manage servers? And that somehow sounds fine to you?

I understand devs have lots of work on their hands and lots of issues to fix, but this one been around for a while now and all we got in response is, that everything is fine. And 20 ppl in an instance is how it should be. In Europe all of the servers are like that, not just the one I play on. Asian servers are heavy , just because there are only 3 of them.

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rakuenCallisto
04.27.2012 , 01:47 PM | #446
Quote: Originally Posted by tomaaac View Post
So i just have to leave their precious 1.2 legacy behind, everything i have achieved and start a new on a different server just because BW don`t know how to manage servers? And that`s somehow sounds fine to you?

I understand devs have lots of work on their hands and lots of issues to fix, but this one been around for a while now and all we got in response is, that everything is fine. And 20 ppl in an instance is how it should be. In Europe all of the servers are like that, not just the one I play on. Asian servers are heavy , just because there are only 3 of them.
Exactly my thoughts. Jaav must be a dev himself.
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OIFVET
04.27.2012 , 01:57 PM | #447
The problem really stems from the fact that BW doesn't respond to the players in the forums at all. The opening of this thread states that the thread has been redirected because the original had more responses than the thread could handle, and that should really tell them something. The only other MMO I play regularly is Eve Online, and I will have to say that CCP reacts to the player base frequently and effectively. Hell, last year they even scrapped an entire expansion idea because the loyal player base revolted against the idea, so CCP being a company that wants to keep their players happy said sorry and started over. Troll the CCP forums and you see that any original and good idea is flagged by the dev team and they actually comment on it. Most things in Eve are done at the behest of the player base. Economy is thriving, but then 90% of all things on the market are player made. I have always loved BW, going way back to BG etc, but at the current time I am pretty disappointed in the way they are handling current issues and with the lack luster way that they respond to the player base. I do however feel that it may also be an EA issue, since we all know that EA could care less about the players who fund them.

I think a server merge is needed, as I am not willing to re-roll and start from scratch over and over again.

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Drunkenpig
04.27.2012 , 02:02 PM | #448
People who say to reroll like its no big deal, must not have lives, or have crappy characters. The people who state that its easy to lvl to 50 either are invalids who have no other things to do with lives, or have skipped all the crafting, have low lvl legacy, have no pvp gear etc, are not in a guild and spend their time farming droids to pass the day. Others who have spent a lot of time and effort into their characters reverse engineering every design in a craft, or have all of the top level pvp gear, are not so cavalier about tossing it down the toilet and rerolling on fatman. Or worse yet, rolling again on another server they thought would become full, only to see it eventually become "standard" (lol). So, for the mentally impaired. let me state the obvious:
1. The population issue has been seriously mismanaged, worse than on any MMO on which I have ever played (and I have played on about 20 of them, just about them all). No other company started so soon with so many servers. It is ridiculous. Noobs at work.
2. People dont like seeing four or five months of effort go to sht for no reason. Rerolling is not an option.
3. BW is screwing around with this problem and shouldve/couldve addressed it in March
4. Transfers will not work as well as mergers, and BW could deal with the name and legacy issues if they put their minds to it.
5. SWTOR is a good game and will be successful if properly managed. But I dont see that happening any time soon. The published comments from the BW team only makes me more sure than ever that they dont know what they are doing.

My character is not uber but I have seen posts from people who obviously put a lot of effort into theirs and now are being ignored. I got bored with being the only dmn person on the entire planet so I am playing Tera. BTW check out how Tera uses channels BW. You might learn something.

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Goyaate
04.27.2012 , 02:04 PM | #450
Quote: Originally Posted by rakuenCallisto View Post
This guy is so misinformed it's unbelievable.
agreed. it is the customer's fault that they are on dead servers? PAYING customers should be blamed because they have stuck around on servers with dwindling populations? nuts. it should be obvious that if people are leaving swtor, it is NOT the customer's fault.

duh.

i am on zez-kai-el and on the pub side there is only one functional post-50 guild. one. if that guild does an op, there is zero chance of getting enough 50s to que for a wz even during peak hours. heck, if the guild is doing an op, it is almost impossible to get enough people together for an hm flashpoint. and we aren't talking about a particularly large guild either.

for the past couple of weeks, most of my game time has been spent mindlessly grinding dailies on ilum and belsavis because there is nothing else to do. there aren't enough people on the server to do anything else.

i quit. at the very least i am quitting my current server. having to once again level a character through missions i have already done multiple times has very little appeal and i am anticipating the Chore of playing swtor with the same verve as cleaning the cat's litte box, but i see no other option.

it is not my fault that the server population is so low, but continuing to play is my choice. i can pay to experience swtor tedium or i can quit. it has shocked me just how great my tolerance is for this increasingly substandard product, but i am clearly approaching my threshold for dross. it is up to bioware/ea, not me, to improve the situation, or the population on their servers will continue to decrease.

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