To the biased Sents/Maras defending their OP class

Why would I die? Aren't I OP?

The only person that's throwing a hissy fit is you though. I never said our defensive cooldown was affected by stuns any differently, nor did I say it is easier to counter than any other one. What other CD in the game eats half your health though? It is used in a very specific situation and by staying observant you can completely negate it. It is such a well known ability that you should already know its coming before it actually happens, and it is used as such a specific time that even if I'm successful in fending off the person I'm attacking, it will not allow me to take on the next person without direct healing from someone else. Point is, it's a strong ability that is easily countered by common sense.

TTK is to short in this game, I would much prefer a longer fight than a shorter one, but it works both ways. As I said, if a marauder uses undying rage and you don't counter it, yea your gonna go down most likely, but very very likely he will go down shortly after you as well.

I'm far from throwing a hissy fit. As I say, I don't really think mauraders are lewlerskatesbroken OP. I just think that with the reduced TTK to where it is, moves that previously were balanced by granting temporary immunity to things are now "too good" because the ratio of up time to the whole fight is a much bigger deal. I would make the same arguement for resilience which, imo, needs to be looked at in CD length.

It's countered by common sense, but so is every defensive move in the game. The difference, is GBF is so good that you are actually forcing your opponents hand on when he has to fire off his stun and you can counter that just as easily. Regardless, you are turning his powerful offensive tool into something he now has to use defensively which gives you the upper hand.

Especially, because of the way the health cost mechanic works, you don't usually end up spending 50% of your total health. You spend 50% of like 4-5k which is something miniscule. The cost of GBF is not as severe as people make it sound. If it was actually 50% of your health I'd say that the move not only wasn't OP, but it completely sucked. Not the case though.

Ok, can we have stealth then?

No I'm claiming moves used defensively aren't the same as defensive moves.

But defensive moves used offensively are still defensive moves? LOL

In fact, Mara/Sents only have one true defensive move, Force Camo.

Rebuke, Saber Ward and GbtF are abilities that are used in an offensive manner, allowing them to be in the heat of the battle, doing the only thing they can do, DPS. "The best defense is a good offense."

Force Camo is the only skill used as both offensive and defensive.

Calling the Sent/Mara's skills defensive is like calling the Offensive Line on an American Football team, "Defense." They are there to "defend" the QB, but they are part of the offensive attack.

If that's the case then no classes have any defensive moves outside of stealth, yet at the same time all stuns are considered defensive because they can be used defensively. But wait, they can also be used offensively so they aren't defensive or offensive. Wait, if Self buffs can be used as offensive and defensive then they are neither. In fact, you can use stealth to get into an offensive position so force cloak is offensive too! *MIND BLOWN*!!!

Do you see why it's stupid to intentionally make terms so vague? There's no point to even having categories if you're going to make the qualitative definitions so intentionally vague that nothing fits it's stupid-*** definition. Accept the categories and stop being difficult. You can't just arbitrarily write off your own moves as "offensive" cooldowns and write in opponent moves as "defensive" cooldowns if you don't even hold true to your own definitions.

K so what's your main now?

Lol @ it's easy mode when I'm guarded. Welcome to SWTOR?