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Jett-Rinn
04.27.2012 , 10:25 AM | #111
Quote: Originally Posted by Drudenfusz View Post
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Sounds good to me.
It may to you but it will turn off core gamers which is a very large audience.
No one hates Star Wars as much as "Star Wars fans"

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Rayla_Felana
04.27.2012 , 10:25 AM | #112
Quote: Originally Posted by GreySix View Post
EA forced an early release? Didn't know that.
It is blatantly obvious, 1.2 is the earliest form of release I would have considered.

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Drudenfusz
04.27.2012 , 10:28 AM | #113
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn View Post
It may to you but it will turn off core gamers which is a very large audience.
I am not so sure that most PvE players really love there grind for the nest tier of gear... the PvP players who are looking for a skill based PvP enviroment will be happy not to worry about gear.
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Drudenfusz
04.27.2012 , 10:30 AM | #114
Quote: Originally Posted by Rayla_Felana View Post
It is blatantly obvious, 1.2 is the earliest form of release I would have considered.
That doesn't say it was a decision made just by EA... But I guess some people are just not willing to see that BIoWare can make mistakes of their own, and so they blame EA for it.
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Lana Everhope - The Drudenfusz Legacy, Shadow Tank on The Red Eclipse
When you play the game of PvP, you win or you die.
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Monoth
04.27.2012 , 10:31 AM | #115
Quote: Originally Posted by Samvan View Post
Do you really wanna know why?

Here we go.
Don't know what to tell ya... I'm running with a Intel I7 processor, Win 7 64bit, Geforce 480gtx video card and 6 gigs of ram, the game runs very smooth for me... The only time I experienced severe lag was on Ilum during a big fight where there was about 50+ players, but turning my graphics down to low cured the lag....

Now during the world event last week I had my graphics on max and ran into a big open world pvp battle with around 40+ players and I didn't experience any lag. So i would guess the lag I experience on Ilum had to do more with poor optimization of the planet...

One thing I will complain about is the very long load times of all the planets (Tython and Corosant are not to bad but every other one after that are almost 60+ secs wait time)
F2P is like driving on a long stretch of highway with toll booths every 1/2 mile

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Jett-Rinn
04.27.2012 , 10:34 AM | #116
Quote: Originally Posted by Drudenfusz View Post
I am not so sure that most PvE players really love there grind for the nest tier of gear... the PvP players who are looking for a skill based PvP enviroment will be happy not to worry about gear.
It does work well for PVP...well for PVPers that don't twink or use every exploit known to man; but the biggest PVE complaint currently (which even tops the OMG the voice acting sucks!!! threads) is there is no sense of accomplishment just grinding and being lead by the hand to be subjected to a trite story and it's only one story, the personal adventure is just the same story being retold at a different angle.

They have broken up the monotony with Facebook type games (help the farmer gather his crops stomp the frost worms) but that is causing a lot of hate in it's own right.
No one hates Star Wars as much as "Star Wars fans"

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Rotny
04.27.2012 , 10:36 AM | #117
Quote: Originally Posted by Monoth View Post
Don't know what to tell ya... I'm running with a Intel I7 processor, Win 7 64bit, Geforce 480gtx video card and 6 gigs of ram, the game runs very smooth for me... The only time I experienced severe lag was on Ilum during a big fight where there was about 50+ players, but turning my graphics down to low cured the lag....

Now during the world event last week I had my graphics on max and ran into a big open world pvp battle with around 40+ players and I didn't experience any lag. So i would guess the lag I experience on Ilum had to do more with poor optimization of the planet...

One thing I will complain about is the very long load times of all the planets (Tython and Corosant are not to bad but every other one after that are almost 60+ secs wait time)

So opening a bag doesn't freeze your game for a split second? so quest updates don't freeze your game? so when another new player comes into your vicinity it doesn't freeze your game? I call BS.
I have 3 PCs in my house 1 i7, 1 i5 and 1 core2duo and this problem happens on all 3 computers.
Now imagine PVP where new players are constantly rendered, quests are constantly updated and you might have to open your bag or another ui window mid fight. This will essentially look like really bad FPS as the game keeps freezing for a split second while getting the data needed to render the graphics. Amazing..

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Jett-Rinn
04.27.2012 , 10:38 AM | #118
Quote: Originally Posted by Rotny View Post

So opening a bag doesn't freeze your game for a split second? so quest updates don't freeze your game? so when another new player comes into your vicinity it doesn't freeze your game? I call BS.
I have 3 PCs in my house 1 i7, 1 i5 and 1 core2duo and this problem happens on all 3 computers.
I have a modest system and have never once had those issues my daughter is playing on a Compaq dual core with a Nvidia 9600 and she isn't having those issues either.
No one hates Star Wars as much as "Star Wars fans"

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Rayla_Felana
04.27.2012 , 10:38 AM | #119
Quote: Originally Posted by Drudenfusz View Post
That doesn't say it was a decision made just by EA... But I guess some people are just not willing to see that BIoWare can make mistakes of their own, and so they blame EA for it.
EA runs this show, they do this with all games, I imagine since early 2011 they were breathing down BioWare's neck asking for a viable release version of the game, so they caved to early, which is their own fault, but at the end of the day, a release this December, instead of last, would have been much more effective.

EDIT: And I do blame BioWare, I blame them a lot for ruining one of my all time favourite game series, two of them actually, KotOR and Mass Effect.

Both of them were rather obviously sacrificed, KotOR III literally was cancelled for SWTOR, so they could make an MMO out of them.

Greedy EA at their finest.

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Bloodstealer
04.27.2012 , 10:40 AM | #120
Quote: Originally Posted by Rayla_Felana View Post
Someone ignored the entire thread didn't he? tut tut.
I read all I needed to.. you can defend the game and its shoddy performance all you like.. when I can run SWTOR on my old HP DV9590 laptop with a cruddy Nvidia 8600M GS GPU and 4GB DDR2 ram and VISTA 32 and see better performance in comparison to my i5 Desktop with 16GB ram, ATI HD6670 and VISTA 64 then yeah I am kinda not supporting your support here.

There are far to many posts relating to performance issues across a wide spectrum of PC builds new and old.... its simply not good enough for JO to just blaise it over with a statemtn blaming low end PC users... they designed the game and stamped their approval on what they deemed to be the min spec required to run and enjoy this game.....

Me thinks in another year or 2 when they have perhaps either ironed out their engine issues, particle effect garbage or (and more likely) introduced a super extra low shaders setting, so that every piece of those nice high end textures we all saw in BETA when the audience was much less, become just a fleeting memory... cos it was all a mistake they were never meanty to be there... then the game may be more performance enabled... but not as it is, no way!

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See all them air bubbles..... that's coming from the head of development while his head is being held under the water by the head of sales & marketing....
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