The Pros and Cons of a Marauder

Force push 1 min cd and its so buged it might push enemy towards your score line, than away from it....
Aoe slow is spamable as long as u have unlimited raged or be tank spec....
2 rage per slow doent make it spamable..
Guard and taunts are in the tank package of every class in game... Mara's spells arent...
And the 2nd mechanic with fury on top of rage....seriously...

And last, enraged defense, is considered a rage drain buff for every class...
When u fight jugg, pray he ll use it to drain 4 rage + 1 rage per sec from himself, and being unable to dps...
Yes, nerf jugg idd...

I see very little use in chaining Predations for Objectives, such as carrying the huttball or while snaring the other team in Voidstar (from another class) using it to get to the next door/console quickly. Nor do I see this in Novare in opening up an assault on the opposing teams Northern point.

I see very little use in chaining Berserk for helping to break a turtle or take a point.

Totally agree with you sir and your assessment of cons on how Marauders can have no effect on objectives.

/sarcasmoff

Maras were strong before, but this is probably true. Lowering the TTK essentially did 2 things..
1) buffed top DPS classes more than anyone else (same percentage, higher base value)
2) increased the duration of damage invuln abilities (relative to the overall TTL of players)

I could see why the side effects of these changes might not be anticipated. BW already said that damage was about where they expected, but I think they need to review the effectiveness of maras survival skills from the perspective of the new TTK... it's a different ballgame.

OK I play a mara and this is the FIRST logical questioning I seen and said maybe they are right... I applaud you sir.. I had not considered the new TTK and same durations for defenses maybe need to be looked at, but that means everyones defensive CD's would have to be adjusted as well... However as a Carnage Mara pre 1.2 and post 1.2, I highly disagree the class is "godly" OP as some make it to be... However, I concede a minor tweek may be in order...I have said that too already though...

I too think pyro is a mobile spec, extremely mobile- thank god unload is the only needed ability for my merc because I don't like standing still too long, I don't need to use unload on my PT if I'm pyro and as shield I'm always moving, always. To say PT pyro isn't mobile... sigh.

If that's how you feel then that's how you feel and no one can argue with you.
Minor twigs are fine with me
Big nerfs are fine with me too.
the only thing i"m not cool with is the amount of whining from the people that's topping dmg board getting 16 medals from protection/heal/ whatever.
Also not cool with people keep saying how OP mara are but wouldn't even lift a finger to try the class.

PS. forum mara don't count. You can tell one when he/she is telling you how easy the class is.
It ain't.

1. Chilling Scream AKA the spammable AOE slow: Every Juggernaut that doesn't suck, regardless of spec, is talented in such a way that Chilling Scream has no Rage cost. It is spammable.
Sure rage spec gonna use that talent instead of +6% overall dmg and +6% strength.
Sure vengeance tree is gonna use taht spamable instead of the ravage boost talent.
I guess u dont play jugg...If u do, u are incredibly bad at it...
2. Force Push is not bugged. If it doesn't work for you, make excuses. it works fine. And charge > push > charge is a solid combo.
Ok, now im 100% sure u dont play one....
And why the hell u should charge push charge like an idiot? to achieve what?
Push for experienced players is another kind of interrupt for important situations (for mara's ravage and other spells when u wanna chain interrupt...
Only scrubs (like u) do charge, push , charge and think they achieved something...
3. Taunts are in the tank package? Did you not buy the tank package when you leveled your toon? You don't have to be in Soresu form to taunt. If you're a Jugg, regardless of spec, and you're not taunting........
Assassins dont need to be in dark charge to taunt.
Powertechs dont need to be in tank stance to taunt.
4. Rage spec with a shield(or without) and stance dancing between Soresu and Shii-Cho is an acceptable way to play a Jugg. Guard is not out of the question. One of the best Guardians I've seen did this. He managed to keep his healer alive when he needed to, and was able to Force Sweep peoples' faces off.
after 1,2 if u have a clue, u dont use shii-cho...
U only get 3% dmg more and use lose a lot stuff..
Cause u arent mara u know...to keep max dmg and max survivability at same time...
And again...every class in game with guard can save his healer that way...

I never said the class is easy... it actually forced me to start to learn keybinds and im sucking a little trying to retrain myself to the new binds...

All i was saying I could see what they are saying and some tweeking might be needed but the trick of it was those defensive CD's means everyone since their statement was TTK ratio was affected...

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Answer in purple.
Wont bother reply more to ppl that dont have a clue about some class in game..