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If SWTOR goes free to play it may save the ship from exploding

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If SWTOR goes free to play it may save the ship from exploding

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Urael
04.26.2012 , 12:01 PM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by Kaedian View Post
Coke machine in my office is $0.50 a can. Coke, Diet Coke, Nestea, Ginger Ale, and Sprite.
Same.

Quote: Originally Posted by Kaedian View Post
That said, $15 is nothing IF you have dispensable income. If you don't, then playing a game with a monthly sub should be the least of your concerns.
^QFT This!

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Kurfer
04.26.2012 , 12:04 PM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by unseenmaji View Post
Games shouldnt always be about making money, greedy companys deserve to fall there corrupted foundation can only last so long.
Haha this post, kids say the strangest things.

We must NOT make money, we must NOT feed our family!

Hey kiddo, where do you think your allowance and lunch money come from? You think mommy grows it on a tree in the back yard?

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Krelios
04.26.2012 , 12:04 PM | #93
F2P is the deathknell of every game that has gone that route after starting as a subscription game. Star Trek Online was okay as a paid game and just terrible now that it's free. You end up having to spend more money in microtransactions to compete because everything beyond the absolute bare bones is a paid (real money) upgrade.

If SWTOR goes F2P you know it's really doomed. Thankfully, the doom prophets are WAY exaggerating the state of the game. SWTOR has plenty of subscribers and is getting more all the time (new markets in 38+ countries, anyone?) so it's going to be around for a long time. Look how long SWG stuck around even when lots of people hated the expansion.

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NorrinRaddd
04.26.2012 , 12:08 PM | #94
Do you know how many angry fans their would be if this went F2P. I got sucked into a F2P game Dungeons and Dragons online enjoyed it but spent aprox. 150 dollars on DLC packs characrter slots and P2W items, its not worth it. Another example would be champions online which went F2P, played it when it was sub decided to come back and give it another try long behold i could not use all the customization slots unless i purchased it, more character slots had to purchase it, access an event had to purchase it. F2P doesnt attract players you lose more and the game becomes a gimme all your cash because we worded a gaming model diffrently. I'd forever hate this game and Bioware and never look back, 15 dollars for "EVERYTHING" is way more than enough for me. I call that the true F2P model.

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johnduane
04.26.2012 , 12:17 PM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by mokkh View Post
This means that you paid for them.

I too have played LOTRO off and on, after it went F2P, and in order to even activate the ability to play specific classes you had to pay for them. Not even mentioning the ability to enter instanced content as well as increase the playable level cap. Can you go make a toon and play the first 20 levels without paying a cent? Sure. But that's something I couldn't do for more than a day or two even if they paid me. In order to play the game in its entirety you have to pay for it.
Exactly right. It isn't any different than any other buy to win game, and it's abysmal to endure the game itself. Awful game. At STO, the life time subscribers swore they wouldn't go f2p, and everyone else that got ripped off by buying a copy of that space turd said yeah it will. TOR is so much better, and there's no need ever to go f2p.

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mokkh
04.26.2012 , 12:25 PM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by Kaedian View Post
Coke machine in my office is $0.50 a can. Coke, Diet Coke, Nestea, Ginger Ale, and Sprite.
Congratulations for avoiding the soft drink inflation that I have had to endure, where is your office? I too would like to revel in your lower than national average soft drink wares.

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Darth_Gao_Gao
04.26.2012 , 12:35 PM | #97
thanks for your bad opinion. free 2 play is a blight upon the gaming world. there are only 2 exceptions, being guildwars and team fortress 2. the rest are just garbage, and you're a nerfherder for desiring such a payment model.

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Lokai
04.26.2012 , 12:44 PM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by johnduane View Post
Exactly right. It isn't any different than any other buy to win game, and it's abysmal to endure the game itself. Awful game. At STO, the life time subscribers swore they wouldn't go f2p, and everyone else that got ripped off by buying a copy of that space turd said yeah it will. TOR is so much better, and there's no need ever to go f2p.
lotor, DDO, DCUO are not pay win games, they are pay to unlock key features games these have nothing to do with power, or being better then anyone else. SOMETIMES gear you get in the unlocked areas is better BUT you still have to earn said gear, or farm it...

But your right nothing worth having is free and if you expect to play those games you best expect to pay something for it. DDO is by far BEST example of a free game though since if your REALLY dedicated =D can earn turbine points in game... but i HOPE you like rerolling alot ^^

but i do not see TOR going f2p the starwars fans alone will keep it going.
" Destiny is like a river...washes us along its ever winding path, the jedi follow its path drawn along it like lambs to the slaughter... but We Sith fight the flow of destiny, turn its course to our whim! Through this will we be the true victors of this war!" -Lokai-

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Drudenfusz
04.26.2012 , 12:53 PM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by Lokai View Post
but i do not see TOR going f2p the starwars fans alone will keep it going.
But sadly the Star Wars fans are not enough to keep all servers busy, SWTOR as a free to play game would have at least the advantage that more people could play the game, so raising the population on the servers (which is in my humble opinion the best selling point for f2p games).
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Aloro
04.26.2012 , 01:01 PM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by Ricktur View Post
this is the truth. i spent $60 in one day playing lotro which is "F2P" f2p is not the way to go, you have to pay for content. its f2p in the sense that you can log in a run around for a little bit
I spent a lot of money on DDO and LotRO. Microtransactions are fine, from the point of view of someone with a lot of extra cash and little willingness to put in extra time "working" in the game. But... even then, experience has shown me that the F2P model changes devs' priorities.

With a sub, devs want to keep everyone happy to a certain base level. Little quality of life improvements will come with every patch - you want to sprint at lvl 1 and ride your speeder in spaceports and orbital stations? Sure. New content will come at a steady pace.

With the F2P model, devs stop worrying about the playerbase as a whole and start "whale hunting" - i.e. they know they can make more money by finding one guy to spend $150 than they can finding a dozen guys willing to cough up a couple of bucks. Suddenly almost all quality of life improvements cost money. You want to sprint at lvl 1? It's $3 to unlock that, per character of course. Riding your speeder in space stations is available for a $5 unlock per character, or the low low rate of 50 cents per day. And so on.

And again, I have money, so I could and did afford all the quality of life improvements. Even so, I came to dislike the priorities of the devs. I didn't feel like they were devoted to simply making the best game experience anymore, but rather on making a game that was just shy of being great, so they could charge me to bridge the gap to greatness.