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If SWTOR goes free to play it may save the ship from exploding

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If SWTOR goes free to play it may save the ship from exploding

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PuddingHead
04.26.2012 , 11:47 AM | #81
I will only play an MMO if it REQUIRES a sub fee. Not F2P with optional sub for extras like many are doing, because they still tend to compel their subscribers to spend more to get the cool new stuff they develop. It has to be sub fee exclusive. If this one goes F2P, I will move on to the next one with a sub, then the one after that, then the one after that. If it ever reaches a point that there are no subscription MMOs left, I guess i'll have to switch genres, because F2P makes me physically ill.

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Tatebomb
04.26.2012 , 11:50 AM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by PuddingHead View Post
I will only play an MMO if it REQUIRES a sub fee. Not F2P with optional sub for extras like many are doing, because they still tend to compel their subscribers to spend more to get the cool new stuff they develop. It has to be sub fee exclusive. If this one goes F2P, I will move on to the next one with a sub, then the one after that, then the one after that. If it ever reaches a point that there are no subscription MMOs left, I guess i'll have to switch genres, because F2P makes me physically ill.
QFT. Some people actually tend to spend MORE with F2P. Those MT's are the devil straight up. Think about it companies are trying to make money right? Well if F2P made them LESS money why would they do it?

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Ricktur
04.26.2012 , 11:51 AM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by mokkh View Post
F2P games are not free to play... all of them still charge the equivalent of a normal subscription fee for things like bank space and character slots. Moreover you still have to pay for DLC things that are now "free" with a subscription. Imagine having to pay for the rakghoul event access, that's the "F2P" model.

$0.50 a day, that's it. You can't even buy a can of coke for that price. I used to blow greater than $10.00 in a night at an arcade back in the day. I'm more than happy to pay the fee.

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this is the truth. i spent $60 in one day playing lotro which is "F2P" f2p is not the way to go, you have to pay for content. its f2p in the sense that you can log in a run around for a little bit
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uziforyou
04.26.2012 , 11:52 AM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by unseenmaji View Post
Look most people dont even want to pay subscriptions anymore and free to play mmos are more appealing. This game will only suceed if very soon they move it to free to play, because look at what coming and you really think with the bad press this game has anyone is going to want to sub to it with better games coming out. Free to play would let people play swtor while they playing other games and raise populations so that it becomes more a sucess, the sub model is failing and that the reason why it didnt sell as many as it could off.
Right. Bioware is going to take a game they have 100's of millions of dollars invested in and just give it out to everyone to play out of the goodness of their hearts.

That's cool. If only we could convince film makers, musicians and others to do the same. What a wonderful world it would be.
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Balrizangor
04.26.2012 , 11:53 AM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by unseenmaji View Post
Games shouldnt always be about making money, greedy companys deserve to fall there corrupted foundation can only last so long.
Hell yes !! How dare a business try to make money !!!! DAMN THEM !!
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thomasgallant
04.26.2012 , 11:54 AM | #86
Quote: Originally Posted by Balrizangor View Post
Hell yes !! How dare a business try to make money !!!! DAMN THEM !!
it isnt like money allows them to make new titles..pay employees..and other things like that... damn them for trying to pay their employees!!! god i hate responsible people and companies:P
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JaxonLuxor
04.26.2012 , 11:54 AM | #87
Define bad press other than a bunch of cry-babies on the forums and a handful of no-name sites....

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Urael
04.26.2012 , 11:57 AM | #88
Quote: Originally Posted by unseenmaji View Post
Look most people dont even want to pay subscriptions anymore and free to play mmos are more appealing. This game will only suceed if very soon they move it to free to play, because look at what coming and you really think with the bad press this game has anyone is going to want to sub to it with better games coming out. Free to play would let people play swtor while they playing other games and raise populations so that it becomes more a sucess, the sub model is failing and that the reason why it didnt sell as many as it could off.
Here we go again with the mythical "most people" "majority" made up bull.

IN YOUR OPINION maybe.

The truth of the matter is that in the LONG RUN one spends more money in the miss-named F2P model. You just don't notice it because you are getting nicked and dimed to death.

Its like putting a frog in a pot of water and slowly turning up the heat untill its boiling to death and then it too late for it to hop out.

AND many ( not all ) of the F2P games become PLAY 2 WIN.

IF SWTOR (or WoW for that matter) goes F2P I won't play either of them.

F2P is an act of desperation for an existing company to hold onto and regain a player base ( SOE anyone? ). It really is only effective for NEW gaming companies trying to break into the market from what I can tell.

F2P

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Kaedian
04.26.2012 , 11:59 AM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by mokkh View Post
F2P games are not free to play... all of them still charge the equivalent of a normal subscription fee for things like bank space and character slots. Moreover you still have to pay for DLC things that are now "free" with a subscription. Imagine having to pay for the rakghoul event access, that's the "F2P" model.

$0.50 a day, that's it. You can't even buy a can of coke for that price. I used to blow greater than $10.00 in a night at an arcade back in the day. I'm more than happy to pay the fee.

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That said, $15 is nothing IF you have dispensable income. If you don't, then playing a game with a monthly sub should be the least of your concerns.
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Arkerus
04.26.2012 , 12:00 PM | #90
It won't ever go F2P. I don't want it to go F2P either.
F2P doesn't have the constant, even source of funding that is required in a game of this magnitude.

Games like Vindictus are good F2P games because they require much less upkeep.
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