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Has this game turned you "off" to MMOs in general?

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Has this game turned you "off" to MMOs in general?

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hairlessOrphan
04.26.2012 , 10:39 AM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by DieAlteHexe View Post
Or, you could look at it as being nice. Nothing wrong with that despite what 'Net behaviour would indicate.

I guess I don't see what's so funny about it. Different people have different preferences. My goofy husband actually likes pickled fish washed down with chocolate milk. This makes my stomach want to hide somewhere faaaar away but hey, it's what he likes so no skin off my nose.
I don't look at it as being nice, I look at is as validating and enabling insecurity. I'm the nicest guy you'll ever meet, true story. And I think being nice is this: look, I don't judge any of you for enjoying being read aloud to. It's not, like: "omg, you're a bad person!" You're not, ok? But admit it, it's funny.

But this is a totally different discussion.

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Master-Nala
04.26.2012 , 10:41 AM | #82
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This game had so many Star Wars fans licking their chops and thinking that this would be the next great thing, because it's STAR WARS... and I had sworn allegiance to this game no matter if I hated it even before I played... but I hit Battlemaster about 2 months ago and stopped playing shortly after. Man I wanted this game to work.
And therein lies the problem. Too many folks like you wrapped up their hopes and dreams in this game. It's just a game, it can't be the fulfillment of all your hopes and desires for videogaming.
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Cerion
04.26.2012 , 10:42 AM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by hairlessOrphan View Post
I do actually know the difference. It's why I played Fem Shep - and it's too bad I can't roll female toons in MMO's, because Jennifer Hale <3. But, come on, man: how many quest givers are really conveying more than just the quest text, right now? I am not really feeling the emotion or character nuance emanating from this fool telling me to collect ten widgets.

And then there are the flat-out terrible VO's: anyone remember the two padawan lovers in the newbie planet for Jedi Knights / Consulars? Wow, that was a performance worthy of fan fiction.
Well of course it's not ALL going to be stellar performances. You can quibble about degrees, but it doesn't take away from the core difference between voice acting and 'reading aloud'. The latter characterization is simply an attempt to minimize the importance of this feature. It is in fact the Voice Acting that makes these stories come alive.

Yes...you can obviously make stories come alive with text...I think LOTRO succeeds at this. But the the cinematic presentation of SWTOR really demands well-acted Voice Over.
Good will always triumph because Evil is lazy.

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Galbatorrix
04.26.2012 , 10:43 AM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by hairlessOrphan View Post
I don't look at it as being nice, I look at is as validating and enabling insecurity. I'm the nicest guy you'll ever meet, true story. And I think being nice is this: look, I don't judge any of you for enjoying being read aloud to. It's not, like: "omg, you're a bad person!" You're not, ok? But admit it, it's funny.

But this is a totally different discussion.

The only thing that's funny is that you don't know the difference between being "read aloud to" and "acting". Again, are people in modern movies just "reading aloud" the text on the screen that used to be shown in silent movies? Sorry, but you're wrong here. You're terminology simply doesn't work.

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Ansultares
04.26.2012 , 10:46 AM | #85
SWTOR specifically hasn't turned me off to MMOs, but BWA embraces a philosophy that is plaguing the industry and turning me off to gaming in general.

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Stellin
04.26.2012 , 10:47 AM | #86
SWOTOR brought me back to the genre (and I am an avid MMO player, dating back to being one of the first EQ1 players). But every time I play SWOTOR (which is every day for 3-4 hours), I just keep wishing it was more like Dark Age of Camelot. I will most likely play SWOTOR for a long time, but I notice my desire to play is slowly lowering, and I no longer put in those marathon sessions on the weekends (dailies and limited WZ's get repetitive and boring).
Until a Dark Age of Camelot sequel is created (or a re-boot of the original), or a DAOC clone is made, I can not 100% say I will remain playing any MMO for years. A few months at best...until some company creates the next DAOC. Then...I can pretty much guarantee I will be paying my subs in full for a year, and will probably be playing for a multitude of years...not months.
SWOTOR has me for now, but like I said...I am quickly getting bored. I don't want alts. I want stuff to do with my lvl 50 Sniper. The only thing I do now is try to get War Hero gear...and with limited WZ's the only available way to do that is by grinding, grinding, and grinding, the same WZ's over, and over, and over again. This is not what I thought I would be doing when I hit lvl 50. Dailies, and WZ's....Dailies, and WZ's..Dailies, and WZ's....Dailies, and WZ's...Dailies, and WZ's...Dailies, and WZ's...Dailies, and WZ's...Dailies, and WZ's...Dailies, and WZ's...Dailies, and WZ's...Dailies, and WZ's...Dailies, and WZ's...Rinse. Repeat. (sigh)

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DieAlteHexe
04.26.2012 , 10:48 AM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by hairlessOrphan View Post
I don't look at it as being nice, I look at is as validating and enabling insecurity. I'm the nicest guy you'll ever meet, true story. And I think being nice is this: look, I don't judge any of you for enjoying being read aloud to. It's not, like: "omg, you're a bad person!" You're not, ok? But admit it, it's funny.

But this is a totally different discussion.
No, you set people up who don't share your precise viewpoint, using thinly veiled put-downs and then attempt to take the high road and mask it as thinking others' preferences are "funny".



And with that, I'll let you have the last word cos this is just going to devolve into bickering and I have better things to do!
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Cerion
04.26.2012 , 10:48 AM | #88
Quote: Originally Posted by hairlessOrphan View Post
You're misunderstanding me. I totally believe that VO's Matter to you people. That is true. It doesn't make it less funny to me. You know how radio stations will sandwich new singles between established hits and replay the same three-song rotation over and over? They do it because it *works*, it makes people like the new single because they associate it with the familiarity of the established hits.

Still funny.
I understand you find it funny...I don't see WHY you find it funny however. Do you find it funny that people go to the movies and enjoy the Voice Over? (otherwise known as dialog). Do you also find it funny that children and adults alike enjoy the Star Wars animated series containing...Voice Over?

I get the sense that you somehow see VO in this game as a 'gimmick' that your 'brilliance' has allowed you to overcome.
Good will always triumph because Evil is lazy.

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hairlessOrphan
04.26.2012 , 10:48 AM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by Cerion View Post
Well of course it's not ALL going to be stellar performances. You can quibble about degrees, but it doesn't take away from the core difference between voice acting and 'reading aloud'. The latter characterization is simply an attempt to minimize the importance of this feature. It is in fact the Voice Acting that makes these stories come alive.

Yes...you can obviously make stories come alive with text...I think LOTRO succeeds at this. But the the cinematic presentation of SWTOR really demands well-acted Voice Over.
I am making the bold claim that MOST of the VO's in this game fall under "being read aloud to." I am. There are very few voiced lines in this game that strike me as memorable or memorably delivered. Maybe they do it for you, maybe you think the VO's are consistently high enough quality to be labelled "acting." Cool. That's cool with me.

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hairlessOrphan
04.26.2012 , 10:51 AM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by DieAlteHexe View Post
No, you set people up who don't share your precise viewpoint, using thinly veiled put-downs and then attempt to take the high road and mask it as thinking others' preferences are "funny".



And with that, I'll let you have the last word cos this is just going to devolve into bickering and I have better things to do!
And my last word is: Cool. I don't know that you should be ascribing intent to me, it might be unfair, but that's cool. You're a nice person.