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The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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rakuenCallisto
04.26.2012 , 10:44 AM | #991
WOO 100 PAGES!

Also I'm unsubbing because of BW's continuous imcompetence and lack of prioritizing the important things that need to be added. Also all the other greater titles coming out this weekend.

This game had so much potential, but fell very short. It's honestly sad to me, I wanted the game to soar but it just didn't even get off the ground.. Even as I write this, I feel disappointed that this game is just an empty vessel of an mmo (literally with all the **** servers and lack of end game).

I think the most annoying thing is BW should be jumping through hoops for us to not migrate to other MMOs coming out this weekend/very soon, but it just seems business as usual for BW...
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Jett-Rinn
04.26.2012 , 10:47 AM | #992
Quote: Originally Posted by rakuenCallisto View Post
WOO 100 PAGES!

Also I'm unsubbing because of BW's continuous imcompetence and lack of prioritizing the important things that need to be added. Also all the other greater titles coming out this weekend.

This game had so much potential, but fell very short. It's honestly sad to me, I wanted the game to soar but it just didn't even get off the ground.. Even as I write this, I feel disappointed that this game is just an empty vessel of an mmo (literally with all the **** servers and lack of end game).
Greater is a matter of opinion....

If you are crying about end game then you won't be happy with GW2 as there is none.
No one hates Star Wars as much as "Star Wars fans"

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Dayln
04.26.2012 , 10:50 AM | #993
Quote: Originally Posted by Leggomy View Post
It is ego. They think they are important. It happens in all official forums. A developer here even stated it not too long ago. Everyone on the forums thinks everyone is like them because...well... they are. Forums are filled with people who are normally not on their first mmo and they think they are more important than someone who this is their first MMO. The forums represent a small demographic in the larger game. I know people who use the forums for their own personal sounding board dont want to hear this but its fact.
I agree

I have been saying for years that what people post here is NOT the common opinion of players, but a tiny and non-random subset of them. That is why polls on forums like these are meaningless, it isn’t random players, not any kind of random sampling, and certainly not even a tiny fraction of actual players.

The interesting part to me is their desire to try and get other people to quit.

That narrows down the motives quite a bit, and none of those motives are good ones.
I have a bad feeling about this

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Kthx
04.26.2012 , 10:51 AM | #994
Quote: Originally Posted by rakuenCallisto View Post
I think the most annoying thing is BW should be jumping through hoops for us to not migrate to other MMOs coming out this weekend/very soon, but it just seems business as usual for BW...
1. BioWare fully understands that the forums represent a vocal minority, not the average player that is the bread and butter of their business.

2. BioWare has actual statistics on subscriptions and concurrent players, and can react to what is actually happening as opposed to what you perceive is happening.

3. Many in the rest of the community are fairly eager to see the MMO-of-the-Day crowd move on, so you are not likely to see a community outcry either.

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Dolcia
04.26.2012 , 10:52 AM | #995
Quote: Originally Posted by Patsilver View Post
I don't think Tera or The Secret World will be SWTOR killers. I've been reading the forums of both these games and people don't seem real happy after beta's. Tera too much of a grind, crafting sucks and no PvP rewards. TSW clunky chunky animations and same animations and sound affects used for many skills.
Tera didn't interest me but TSW could.
I don't know, I get a dirty car sales man feeling about a pay to play game with all those micro-transactions for in-game benefits. That is what keeps me from trying/playing TSW.
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JeramieCrowe
04.26.2012 , 10:52 AM | #996
Quote: Originally Posted by Samvan View Post
That's very immature of you. I am addressing your questions and you're making fun of it.

Sorry to say this JeramieCrowe but I have to unfortuantely put you on ignore for now, seems like discussing matters like this only makes things worse.

I have to thank you for participating in this discussion and wish you best luck.

Best regards, Sam.
I see. So, someone (me) is actually genuinely interested in what happened to you to cause this dissatisfaction with the team, and really wants to know what happened, and you put them on ignore.

That is telling in so many ways I cannot even begin...
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JeramieCrowe
04.26.2012 , 10:53 AM | #997
Quote: Originally Posted by Leggomy View Post
They have already said your legacy will not transfer didnt they?
Legacies ARE transferring.
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Goretzu
04.26.2012 , 10:56 AM | #998
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Legacies ARE transferring.
Will he admit he's wrong this time? Who knows.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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misterjdw
04.26.2012 , 10:57 AM | #999
There are 2 games that might make me drop this one. GW2 and Mechwarrior online. It will depend on how good they really are.

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Jett-Rinn
04.26.2012 , 10:58 AM | #1000
Quote: Originally Posted by Kthx View Post
1. BioWare fully understands that the forums represent a vocal minority, not the average player that is the bread and butter of their business.

2. BioWare has actual statistics on subscriptions and concurrent players, and can react to what is actually happening as opposed to what you perceive is happening.

3. Many in the rest of the community are fairly eager to see the MMO-of-the-Day crowd move on, so you are not likely to see a community outcry either.

Yeah I dream for the day when you can visit the official forum and not be subject to the temper tantrum of the minuet.
No one hates Star Wars as much as "Star Wars fans"