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The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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Samvan
04.26.2012 , 10:17 AM | #981
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
So...what is your issue, anyway?
That's very immature of you. I am addressing your questions and you're making fun of it.

Sorry to say this JeramieCrowe but I have to unfortuantely put you on ignore for now, seems like discussing matters like this only makes things worse.

I have to thank you for participating in this discussion and wish you best luck.

Best regards, Sam.

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Leggomy
04.26.2012 , 10:18 AM | #982
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
But if you don't click the cancel button what happens? A or B!


(I'm trying to get you to understand what the cancel button actually it [not what you seem to think it is] - it basically stops any recurring credit/debit card payment and sends in a little why did you quit form, it does nothing else

There is no difference in his system between a gamecard and a cancelled credit/debit card acount, neither would have any forum access at all - it really is exceedingly simple).
If you dont click cancel then thats irrelevant because we are talking about people who DO click cancel. We are also talking about ADDING a feature than when you DO HIT CANCEL it removes your forum access. You keep going on about irrelevant stuff and skirting the issue at hand. It doesnt matter what the system does now since we want them to change it. It also doesnt matter what happens NOW when you hit the cancel button but would WOULD happen if this change was put in. I just dont get why you arent grasping the conversation. I think now you are simply being pigheaded and trying to change the subject lol.

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Leggomy
04.26.2012 , 10:18 AM | #983
Quote: Originally Posted by Samvan View Post
That's very immature of you. I am addressing your questions and you're making fun of it.

Sorry to say this JeramieCrowe but I have to unfortuantely put you on ignore for now, seems like discussing matters like this only makes things worse.

I have to thank you for participating in this discussion and wish you best luck.

Best regards, Sam.
So if someone asks what exactly your issue is you put them on ignore? smh

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Goretzu
04.26.2012 , 10:21 AM | #984
Quote: Originally Posted by Leggomy View Post
If you dont click cancel then thats irrelevant because we are talking about people who DO click cancel.
We're not.

We are talking about credit/debit card customers that DO click cancel (if they don't click cancel they are charged reoccuringly forever) and all game card customers as they don't have to click "cancel" as their game time is always IN that state.

I really don't understand why you can't grasp this.

If you have a game card you never need to click cancel, it just runs out, which is exactly the same state as a "cancelled" account paid for by credit/debit card. You're not canceling your account, so much as cancelling recurring payment - game cards are always in that state and so would never have forum access under that system!
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
Goretzu's Law: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving "Entitled" approaches 1

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Patsilver
04.26.2012 , 10:23 AM | #985
I don't think Tera or The Secret World will be SWTOR killers. I've been reading the forums of both these games and people don't seem real happy after beta's. Tera too much of a grind, crafting sucks and no PvP rewards. TSW clunky chunky animations and same animations and sound affects used for many skills.
Tera didn't interest me but TSW could.
I survived the Patch From Hell (9/24/2013) but my subscription didn't.

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Goretzu
04.26.2012 , 10:31 AM | #986
Quote: Originally Posted by Leggomy View Post
If you dont click cancel then thats irrelevant because we are talking about people who DO click cancel. We are also talking about ADDING a feature than when you DO HIT CANCEL it removes your forum access. You keep going on about irrelevant stuff and skirting the issue at hand. It doesnt matter what the system does now since we want them to change it. It also doesnt matter what happens NOW when you hit the cancel button but would WOULD happen if this change was put in. I just dont get why you arent grasping the conversation. I think now you are simply being pigheaded and trying to change the subject lol.
Ninja edit eh?

Why would anyone that wanted to post on the forum hit "cancel" (with a game card) if they were quitting but still wanted to post on the forums.

That's totally bizarre and pointless, you're basically saying it would be a cancel button that people pressed to deny themselves access to the forums, yet still allow them to play the game...... but if they didn't press "cancel" everything would stay the same.

Sorry, but you've completely lost me now....... why would anyone have a system like that? And indeed what would it achieve?






Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn View Post
Yeah I will say this; BioWare needs to shut off forum access the moment people cancel because all they are going to do is troll and disrupt the forums.
But to get back to this dimensional reality for a second (where he said the above), with what he was actually saying game card customers would still never have any forum access.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
Goretzu's Law: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving "Entitled" approaches 1

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Xzenorath
04.26.2012 , 10:33 AM | #987
I don't really care to get into a big argument with the rest of you, but I wanted to say that I was gone for about a month and came back to find that 75% of the people I played with moved on or rerolled. It's kind of sad

I rerolled on a new server to play with friends, and that server is much more active and fun than my previous one. I can't help but feel like this is one of the major reasons why people are leaving. If it doesn't feel like an MMO because there's nobody around, then people get bored and move on.

Server transfers do need to happen, and they need to happen fast. I would LOVE to have my level 50's along with it's legacy unlocks and all my credits over on the new server, it bothers me that I'm losing all those benefits but I keep playing because I really want this game to succeed, even if it feels like it's lacking so many things compared to other MMO's I play.

Anyways, that is my input, it doesn't mean I'm right or that my opinion is better than anyone else's, I just can't help but feel like crowded servers would create better communities and would alleviate the problem with the amount of people leaving. It feels like a real problem, beyond missing features or bugs. (Twi'leks without hoods? :/ )

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Samvan
04.26.2012 , 10:35 AM | #988
Quote: Originally Posted by Leggomy View Post
So if someone asks what exactly your issue is you put them on ignore? smh
Before you make hasty assumptions, please look over his and I's conversation and please think over and respond.

Clearly the forum did not quote his entire respond.

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Leggomy
04.26.2012 , 10:40 AM | #989
Quote: Originally Posted by Samvan View Post
Before you make hasty assumptions, please look over his and I's conversation and please think over and respond.

Clearly the forum did not quote his entire respond.
Ok so what is your issue anyways?

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Leggomy
04.26.2012 , 10:41 AM | #990
Quote: Originally Posted by Xzenorath View Post
Server transfers do need to happen, and they need to happen fast. I would LOVE to have my level 50's along with it's legacy unlocks and all my credits over on the new server, it bothers me that I'm losing all those benefits but I keep playing because I really want this game to succeed, even if it feels like it's lacking so many things compared to other MMO's I play.
They have already said your legacy will not transfer didnt they?