The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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JeramieCrowe

04.26.2012 , 09:04 AM \| #941
Quote: Originally Posted by Samvan a bunch of stuff that doesn't actually address the issue So...what is your issue, anyway?
Allix Crowe - Vanguard Trooper -/- Ethavan Crowe - Smuggler Gunslinger -/- Malrath Crowe - Powertech Bounty Hunter -/- Boslo - Jedi Knight Sentinel -/- Jiao-gen Pall - Jedi Knight Guardian -/- Landen Tanarr - Jedi Consular Sage -/- Vaelyth Kinti-kaar- Sith Warrior Juggernaut -/- Oteln'erose'thu - Imperial Agent Sniper -/- Zandur Tuum - Cathar Knight

Leggomy

04.26.2012 , 09:05 AM \| #942
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu Which is exactly what he said. If you cancel your recurring subs you would have no access to the forums (and never would on a gamecard). I'm confused as to what you think he was saying? It is still recurring with a gametime card guy. Also it would know if you hit cancel or not right? I use gametime cards I know this to be a fact. My account says recurring even tho I use a gametime card. You are mistaken.

Goretzu

04.26.2012 , 09:06 AM \| #943
Quote: Originally Posted by Leggomy The point is they should be worried more about the people who are currently playing. Those guys came into this game expecting it to be something it is not. I came with no expectations in advance just tried it out with an open mind. I doubt anything they do would bring your freinds back short of a complete rework of the entire game. The cost involved is not worth it. Better to spend that money on new content and bug fixes for the millions who DO like the game. "Millions" is a bit hopeful, at best it's a million and a bit (total sales are only just in the millions atm). However you don't even know why they quit, but even now you're saying "good riddence", this is exactly what I mean in my post above. No MMORPG can prosper without both attracting new players and re-attracting old players, as well as trying to keep those that are playing. I've no idea why so many here seem to think that fishing from a decreasing pool is a good business stratergy.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too? Goretzu's Law: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving "Entitled" approaches 1

JeramieCrowe

04.26.2012 , 09:07 AM \| #944
Quote: Originally Posted by Sanxxx Possibly that as well, in any event we can't be sure it means Subscribers, so we have no EA/BW quote on subs since 2nd Feb. Well, I'm finding it difficult to reconcile how an ingame population can remain unchanged, especially from a launch surge, and still lose subs? It'd have to be subs of people that never logged in, and that's *highly* unlikely...
Allix Crowe - Vanguard Trooper -/- Ethavan Crowe - Smuggler Gunslinger -/- Malrath Crowe - Powertech Bounty Hunter -/- Boslo - Jedi Knight Sentinel -/- Jiao-gen Pall - Jedi Knight Guardian -/- Landen Tanarr - Jedi Consular Sage -/- Vaelyth Kinti-kaar- Sith Warrior Juggernaut -/- Oteln'erose'thu - Imperial Agent Sniper -/- Zandur Tuum - Cathar Knight

Goretzu

04.26.2012 , 09:07 AM \| #945
Quote: Originally Posted by Leggomy It is still recurring with a gametime card guy. Also it would know if you hit cancel or not right? I use gametime cards I know this to be a fact. My account says recurring even tho I use a gametime card. You are mistaken. How can it bill you automatically for a new game card?
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too? Goretzu's Law: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving "Entitled" approaches 1

Leggomy

04.26.2012 , 09:09 AM \| #946
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu How can it bill you automatically for a new game card? Ask Bioware. You are mistaken tho it does say recurring on my account and I use gametime cards to pay.

JeramieCrowe

04.26.2012 , 09:09 AM \| #947
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu "Millions" is a bit hopeful, at best it's a million and a bit (total sales are only just in the millions atm). However you don't even know why they quit, but even now you're saying "good riddence", this is exactly what I mean in my post above. No MMORPG can prosper without both attracting new players and re-attracting old players, as well as trying to keep those that are playing. I've no idea why so many here seem to think that fishing from a decreasing pool is a good business stratergy. It's called "churn". Every MMO has it, every developer does what they can to minimize it. There is no way to prevent it.
Allix Crowe - Vanguard Trooper -/- Ethavan Crowe - Smuggler Gunslinger -/- Malrath Crowe - Powertech Bounty Hunter -/- Boslo - Jedi Knight Sentinel -/- Jiao-gen Pall - Jedi Knight Guardian -/- Landen Tanarr - Jedi Consular Sage -/- Vaelyth Kinti-kaar- Sith Warrior Juggernaut -/- Oteln'erose'thu - Imperial Agent Sniper -/- Zandur Tuum - Cathar Knight

Leggomy

04.26.2012 , 09:11 AM \| #948
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe It's called "churn". Every MMO has it, every developer does what they can to minimize it. There is no way to prevent it. The game currently has about 1.7 million subscribers and growing everyday. Not only have they expanded into APAC but also into the middle east and numerous other countries. We will find out more in May but I would guess the population has grown to over 2 million by now.

Goretzu

04.26.2012 , 09:11 AM \| #949
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe It's called "churn". Every MMO has it, every developer does what they can to minimize it. There is no way to prevent it. I'm not saying there is, I'm saying it's amazing how many posters here actively don't want people to come back. Nor want changes to the game to encourage that. Quite clearly the Bioware devs and EA accounts WILL want people to come back and will do what they can (and are - look at 30 days free).
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too? Goretzu's Law: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving "Entitled" approaches 1

JeramieCrowe

04.26.2012 , 09:12 AM \| #950
Quote: Originally Posted by Leggomy Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu How can it bill you automatically for a new game card? Ask Bioware. You are mistaken tho it does say recurring on my account and I use gametime cards to pay. "Recurring", in this instance, is a declaration of intent from the subscriber. Game card numbers have to be entered manually every month, or for as often as the game card is purchased for. Also, if it's a 3-month game card, it's technically "recurring", as it's a monthly stipulation.
Allix Crowe - Vanguard Trooper -/- Ethavan Crowe - Smuggler Gunslinger -/- Malrath Crowe - Powertech Bounty Hunter -/- Boslo - Jedi Knight Sentinel -/- Jiao-gen Pall - Jedi Knight Guardian -/- Landen Tanarr - Jedi Consular Sage -/- Vaelyth Kinti-kaar- Sith Warrior Juggernaut -/- Oteln'erose'thu - Imperial Agent Sniper -/- Zandur Tuum - Cathar Knight

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