The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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Sanxxx

04.26.2012 , 08:42 AM \| #901
Quote: BioWare said TWICE last week that subs have NOT declined. Can anyone point to an actual quote ? The PCGamer article to which all others seem to reference contains no Bioware quote about subs. The only reference being an unsubstantiated claim made by the article writer.

JeramieCrowe

04.26.2012 , 08:42 AM \| #902
Quote: Originally Posted by Samvan I reported that in my eyes the game is sinking, warning other people to evacuate before it sinks. Nothing less and nothing more. Please explain how that is offending, it's not. This isn't the real Titanic. People aren't going to die if they're still on it when it sinks. Therefore, you're "warning" other people is just an attempt at boycott for selfish reasons, not any real concern for other people. You're attempting to make yourself sound altruistic, when that's clearly not the case.
Allix Crowe - Vanguard Trooper -/- Ethavan Crowe - Smuggler Gunslinger -/- Malrath Crowe - Powertech Bounty Hunter -/- Boslo - Jedi Knight Sentinel -/- Jiao-gen Pall - Jedi Knight Guardian -/- Landen Tanarr - Jedi Consular Sage -/- Vaelyth Kinti-kaar- Sith Warrior Juggernaut -/- Oteln'erose'thu - Imperial Agent Sniper -/- Zandur Tuum - Cathar Knight

Leggomy

04.26.2012 , 08:42 AM \| #903
Quote: Originally Posted by Taoretas So...you eat toxic/disgusting food then is that what you are implying with all this? Don't get it. I was thinking Id turn down toxic food even if it was free. Just the other day I was offered a burger from mcdonalds free. I turned it down because its simply disgusting and I cant stomach it. I do not go to mcdonalds and complain all day long about how they should make burgers differently tho. I simply buy burgers at 5 guys instead.

Jett-Rinn

04.26.2012 , 08:43 AM \| #904
Quote: Originally Posted by Marrond You're completely missing the point with this post. Arenanet doesn't get any money if players play or not - if players are not playing it's even better for them (less cost to keep up servers running). They only get money from retail box (which was little over half price of SWTOR to be precise) - and BW got outrageous of money from retail boxes + subscribers. Even when subscribers don't play. BW has to work hard everyday to keep that subscribers in place if they want BONUS money. Sorry but you have no clue how the industry works, The retail box sales aren't outrageous; it is the industry standard and after all the cost BioWare gets a very small portion of that, further It isn't "bonus money" it's keeping the lights on and funding future devlopment and Arenanet will be doing the exact same thing with expansion packs they charge full price for even five years after they have been released, and lets not forget their cash shop ; I'm in the GW2 beta let me tell you it is going to be extensive.
No one hates Star Wars as much as "Star Wars fans"

JeramieCrowe

04.26.2012 , 08:44 AM \| #905
Quote: Originally Posted by Sanxxx Can anyone point to an actual quote ? The PCGamer article to which all others seem to reference contains no Bioware quote about subs. The only reference being an unsubstantiated claim made by the article writer. Quote: Originally Posted by Daniel Erickson One of the problems we�re running into right now is kind of a classic MMO problem, which is that *our overall population of players has not changed*, but our peak concurrent users has changed. From this article, for one.
Allix Crowe - Vanguard Trooper -/- Ethavan Crowe - Smuggler Gunslinger -/- Malrath Crowe - Powertech Bounty Hunter -/- Boslo - Jedi Knight Sentinel -/- Jiao-gen Pall - Jedi Knight Guardian -/- Landen Tanarr - Jedi Consular Sage -/- Vaelyth Kinti-kaar- Sith Warrior Juggernaut -/- Oteln'erose'thu - Imperial Agent Sniper -/- Zandur Tuum - Cathar Knight

Samvan

04.26.2012 , 08:44 AM \| #906
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe This isn't the real Titanic. People aren't going to die if they're still on it when it sinks. Therefore, you're "warning" other people is just an attempt at boycott for selfish reasons, not any real concern for other people. You're attempting to make yourself sound altruistic, when that's clearly not the case. It's called a metaphor, I advise you to google what the meaning of a metaphor is and you may understand what I'm implying.

Goretzu

04.26.2012 , 08:44 AM \| #907
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn Yeah I will say this; BioWare needs to shut off forum access the moment people cancel because all they are going to do is troll and disrupt the forums. Two major problems with that (ignoring that I'm not sure they can cut you off from support for game time you've paid for): 1. Game card customers would never have any access to the forums. 2. Bioware need to understand what will make people stay (or not leave), a lot of the reasons are the same again and again and are fixable.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too? Goretzu's Law: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving "Entitled" approaches 1

Leggomy

04.26.2012 , 08:45 AM \| #908
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn Sorry but you have no clue how the industry works, The retail box sales aren't outrageous; it is the industry standard and after all the cost BioWare gets a very small portion of that, further It isn't "bonus money" it's keeping the lights on and funding future devlopment and Arenanet will be doing the exact same thing with expansion packs they charge full price for even five years after they have been released, and lets not forget their cash shop ; I'm in the GW2 beta let me tell you it is going to be extensive. You hit it right on the nose. They use the cash store just like LOTRO does and DDO also does. These games count on you spending money every month even if it is not in a subscription. They cannot exist simply on box sales alone.

JeramieCrowe

04.26.2012 , 08:46 AM \| #909
Quote: Originally Posted by Marrond You're completely missing the point with this post. Arenanet doesn't get any money if players play or not - if players are not playing it's even better for them (less cost to keep up servers running). They only get money from retail box (which was little over half price of SWTOR to be precise) - and BW got outrageous of money from retail boxes + subscribers. Even when subscribers don't play. BW has to work hard everyday to keep that subscribers in place if they want BONUS money. The average income for all F2P games is $28 per month, *after* box sales.
Allix Crowe - Vanguard Trooper -/- Ethavan Crowe - Smuggler Gunslinger -/- Malrath Crowe - Powertech Bounty Hunter -/- Boslo - Jedi Knight Sentinel -/- Jiao-gen Pall - Jedi Knight Guardian -/- Landen Tanarr - Jedi Consular Sage -/- Vaelyth Kinti-kaar- Sith Warrior Juggernaut -/- Oteln'erose'thu - Imperial Agent Sniper -/- Zandur Tuum - Cathar Knight

Goretzu

04.26.2012 , 08:46 AM \| #910
Quote: Originally Posted by DieAlteHexe Zero losses here, and 9 gains. Not everyone listens to the negatives and gives the game a try to see if they like it. Impressive. Unfortunately 27 of the 30 people that came to SWTOR with me have left (all long time SW fans all looking forward to SWTOR for years). I hope they improve the game enough to get them back.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too? Goretzu's Law: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving "Entitled" approaches 1

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