The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

SWTOR was not hyped by players themselves - actualy as far as I can remember people complained since closed beta. BW/EA hyped game itself and there's no lie in this statement.

You're missing the point and taking down everything to the money. GW1 was F2P since the beggining - did it attracted impossible amounts of players? No, because it was game which used single player/coop experience as tutorial to the game and it was everything about PVP. There was no grind, no PvE in meanings how most people understand this term. GW2 is hyping to the sky right now because players are excited about content and completely new game mechanics, not because it's going to be without monthly fee. I highly recommend to people to not talk about something they never experienced because atm it's looking like physicaly incapacited person would talk about his/her snowboarding experience - which they saw on the picture....

Second part of your post - I completely agree. I'm saying it all the time in many diffrent discussions but people tend to not see crushing truth that if you want to have same experience as you would have by paying monthly fee you actualy have to pay twice or even triple as much. They don't care because they gonna play for free (with cropped out essentail features like for example guild wars or guild bank, etc. - GG, GL, HF)

I got ripped. I only got 30 days.

This is what makes today's gaming society, or even internet, very bad.

As soon as you don't like something that everyone else likes, and express your personal opinion about it;

It automatically stamps you as "trolling".

I thank you for being so short sighted Leggomy, instead of discussing with a dissatisfied customer you tell the customer that he's not serious at all and just wants attention like a spoiled child.

Way to go!

This is not trolling, a personal opinion is not trolling. Please understand that.

This is the adult version of a toddler's temper tantrum. It doesn't have to make sense.

Indeed. Now I feel ripped off.

All I heard for two years on the LOTRO forums was how awesome SWTOR would be and they better fix blah blah blah or everyone would quit and run to SWTOR. So yes players did hype it up thinking it would be something more than what it is. A game.

Zero losses here, and 9 gains.

Not everyone listens to the negatives and gives the game a try to see if they like it.

Well I am enjoying SWTOR much more than I am LOTRO at the moment and if they keep going down the path of pay to win gear I will stop logging in all together.

SWToR is just fine I think its doing good, Thing is you got the WoW generation of MMo's thinking a game has to be bombarded with people for it to be successful not everyone wants to play WoW and not everyone is into the whole midevel themed games and same for sci-fi games not everyone wants to play em either and would rather play WoW you cannot compair the two games WoW in its self caters to the young and makes things way to easy to complete it went from a decent MMO to a we listen to the winny little kids who want there gear easy so we will give it to them so they dont leave for another MMO thats all its they want to keep the numbers in there game so they will do whatever it takes to make the mass amount of plays to stay and WoW targets the younger generations way more then the older generations and believe me there is a market for the older generation of gammer.

I just get tired of hearing about how crappy one MMO is to another and how this one is dieing its not dieing its just losing the WoW player back to WoW cause they cannot get what they want in this game and complaining about it seems to not work so much on this game then in WoW .. I do hope SWToR stays true and keeps things as they are cause its good to work for your gear and money makes one feel good about there charator.

And who is it exactly that is asking you to tell others to evacuate

Why is it that if you decide to leave ( which you keep saying, but you don’t actually do, you just keep posting on the boards of a game you seem to hate ) why do you need to have others leave as well?

We are having fun, and will enjoy staying thank you very much

Sorry to break it to you, but you aren’t any kind of leader with lemmings following you out the door

You want to go out the door? Fine... go

Do us a favor, leave these forums for those that are still playing and enjoying this game.