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unseenmaji
04.26.2012 , 02:01 AM | #851
Quote: Originally Posted by Alcarinn View Post
Diablo III is not MMO game and allthough many who palyed Diablo and Diablo II also played WoW or/and Starcraft there is no guarantee that they will also shift to Diablo III

Guild Wars 2 meanwhile will be the same ''disappointment'' as SW ToR is supposed to be there will be multiple things ''missing'' compared to Blizzards WoW and targeted audience is same...

TERA looks crap btw....

Seriously SW ToR is a game with multiple flaws where the most ridiculous one is bad community managment by Bioware (listening to forum whiners) closely followed by no Xfers and no server-only LFG tool

But what i personally say disappoints me the most is the fact that Hero Engine is ULTIMATE CRAP for allowing true MASSIVE EVIRONEMTN together with servers only handling a COUPLE of thousand people online

Modern MMOs servers and engines SHOULD handle 10.000+ players on a single server....

Ps: The only real reason why Guild Wars 2 is going to be doing relatively ''good'' is because it has no subscription fee.
The final game of Diablo 3 is very fun to play dont measure it by the beta it didnt give you enough to really get feel for what it has to offer. It has high replayability and new experiences every time even some of the quest events are random generated.

GW2 will be very good pvp they looked at what people truly wanted and found way to apply it, it new and a new experience is what the gamers really want. The fact they decided to not make it a grind and a pvp fun from beginning on equal grounds was excellent idea. MOP is actually pretty good alot people will try it, trust me how many times do people go back to WOW to try the expansions, MOP has graphics improvements too and supports dx11. Firefall is the game people dont know much about but one to keep eye on it looks fun and it a futuristic mmo.

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unseenmaji
04.26.2012 , 02:06 AM | #852
Lets face it with the subs being under 700k most likely right now if the cancelation really did cancel, and with coming better games that wont be rushed released you can bet that SWTOR will have a mass fall by mid year, infact by end of 2012 this game will have only 200k subs if that. Fact is if SWTOR released same time GW2, MOP and DIablo 3 they wouldnt have even sold over 1million copys. maybe 300k

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OsarionRDM
04.26.2012 , 02:10 AM | #853
Quote: Originally Posted by celebrei View Post
But its true with Guild Wars 2 Diablo III and also Tera online looming over the horizon SWTOR is in serious trouble, posters here may say it a million times over and over again but the fact remains that its true.
Don't you people ever get tired of this?

When Rift came out it was ZOMG it's going to kill X Y and Z MMO. When TOR came out? ZOMG! Kill X Y and Z MMO! When GW2 comes out? ZOMG, going to kill TOR Rift and other MMOs! When the next big thing comes out? ZOMG!!! Going to kill GW2 and Tera! And so on and so on. Blah blah blah, same old crap over and over again. So sick of it...
I find your over-inflated sense of self worth disturbing.

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xxtorchyxx
04.26.2012 , 02:13 AM | #854
I understand people are havin problems with this game. I personally enjoy this game because im huge into star wars and the whole lore and story behind this game. Thr grind from 1-50 was enjoyable with in game cintematics, player speaking choices, and a whole list of things. I agree transfers need to be added but im happy with the fact they are trying to make this game better. I also loved I was rewarded for being one of there long time members I actually feel like they try to reach out and want people to join and play. This game has a whole lot better community than mmo like WoW I actually feel like my character plays a major role in the star wars feel. So all you swtor haters please stop putting down this game people enjoy it still or else they would have dropped the whole thing, and if you bought this game becuase you saw the awesome cinematic trailer and thought that what the game would be like im sorry you just got sold into good advertisment. May the force be with you guys!

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unseenmaji
04.26.2012 , 02:13 AM | #855
Quote: Originally Posted by OsarionRDM View Post
Don't you people ever get tired of this?

When Rift came out it was ZOMG it's going to kill X Y and Z MMO. When TOR came out? ZOMG! Kill X Y and Z MMO! When GW2 comes out? ZOMG, going to kill TOR Rift and other MMOs! When the next big thing comes out? ZOMG!!! Going to kill GW2 and Tera! And so on and so on. Blah blah blah, same old crap over and over again. So sick of it...
Well in this case it will. SWTOR should been a single player game with mulitplayer options at end and it should been free to play.

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OsarionRDM
04.26.2012 , 02:14 AM | #856
Quote: Originally Posted by unseenmaji View Post
Lets face it with the subs being under 700k most likely right now if the cancelation really did cancel, and with coming better games that wont be rushed released you can bet that SWTOR will have a mass fall by mid year, infact by end of 2012 this game will have only 200k subs if that. Fact is if SWTOR released same time GW2, MOP and DIablo 3 they wouldnt have even sold over 1million copys. maybe 300k
Hey, Nostradamus, what's $12.99*500,000*12? Hint: It's $77,940,000. 77 million dollars a year even with 500,000 subs. Just because an MMO doesn't have WoW like sub numbers, doesn't even REMOTELY mean it's a failure. Hey, can I have tomorrow's lotto numbers, while you're predicting the future?

PS: I say all this as a staunch critic of this game. I just love injecting some reality into the minds of the delusional
I find your over-inflated sense of self worth disturbing.

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CygnusMX
04.26.2012 , 02:18 AM | #857
Dont know about Diablo 3,pretty much looks like I could pull out my 1st Gen XBOX and old Baldurs Gate console version and have a similar experience, just not as fancey. its that cam view they are useing, the kind that tweaks your neck.
To this day GuildWars 1 and the trilogy looks better than WoW does today.
I left GW1 to try Wow in 2004? 2005? vanilla WoW I guess, played it a month and went back to GW.
Preferance I guess, WoW gave me a headache, it was butt ugly and Disney-ish or kiddie-ish.
Went back to GW and felt like a breath of fresh air. and I didnt have to pay for it every month.
GW2 free to play ? that might be competative.

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CygnusMX
04.26.2012 , 02:26 AM | #858
Quote: Originally Posted by OsarionRDM View Post
Don't you people ever get tired of this?

When Rift came out it was ZOMG it's going to kill X Y and Z MMO. When TOR came out? ZOMG! Kill X Y and Z MMO! When GW2 comes out? ZOMG, going to kill TOR Rift and other MMOs! When the next big thing comes out? ZOMG!!! Going to kill GW2 and Tera! And so on and so on. Blah blah blah, same old crap over and over again. So sick of it...
Sorry I,m cracking up....
This Post is so good, and undeniably true about all the BS flying around ,Ill go to bed content that everything in this thread was wrapped up nice and neat package lol.

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04.26.2012 , 02:43 AM | #859
Quote: Originally Posted by Lt_Latency View Post
That was the problem though. That what people warned them about. You need to do something to distinguish yourself from games before you.

EQ had huge head start over WoW. But they changed enough and improved enough that it didn't matter.

With this game, I like the story and single player game better, But I'm done that now and I have moved on to PvP. Where I will have to wait years paying 15 dollars a month to get the content in WoW today.

Thats the problem. They have no real stand out features for the long term right now


THis is where a space expansion would really help IMO.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Reseg
04.26.2012 , 05:42 AM | #860
Quote: Originally Posted by OsarionRDM View Post
Hey, Nostradamus, what's $12.99*500,000*12? Hint: It's $77,940,000. 77 million dollars a year even with 500,000 subs. Just because an MMO doesn't have WoW like sub numbers, doesn't even REMOTELY mean it's a failure. Hey, can I have tomorrow's lotto numbers, while you're predicting the future?

PS: I say all this as a staunch critic of this game. I just love injecting some reality into the minds of the delusional
Speaking of reality, Bioware just had layoffs here in Austin. You won't find a news release because they had them signing NDAs to try and keep it from being public. You can't keep it quiet when these people are interviewing for other jobs and need to explain why they left their previous company though.