Server population is dropping...

I wasn't planning on playing Guild Wars 2 at all. Just because I disliked the first one. Well I liked the first one. but it wasn't an open world mmo, and the level cap was just 20 when I started and I reached it super quick.
GW2 will have a real open world, a level 80 cap, and incredible open world pvp(WvWvW, if you havent' seen any youtube videos, they are awesome).
The graphics look better. The gameplay looks a lot more fun(this game has horrible gameplay mechanics.).

I loved leveling up in SWTOR, but I reached level cap in like 2-3 weeks, and realized they had no endgame.
I've done KP EV, and the first 2 bosses in Denova.
The raids are just a straight line pretty much. And the boss mechanics are nothing special. The pvp is a joke, and pvp is what I spend the most time doing in mmos.
I've played at least 15 MMOs. This game is bad. It's really fun from 1-49, and can still be fun at 50. It's still a bad game.

With Guild Wars 2 and Diablo 3 just around the corner, I really don't see how this game stands a chance.

I'm going to have so much fun quoting this over and over again. Thank you!

I like this game. What I don't like is waiting hours for a pvp game. The population on The Constant is really low. There's no chance I'm going to reroll on another server, not after spending so much time levelling and gearing my characters.

Bioware needs merge a few of the low pop servers or allow free transfers. ATM it feels like I'm paying $15/month to wait in a really long line.

All this talk about server pops had me thinking back to my days in EQ. I'm sure this is rose coloured nostalgic glasses on my part, but I remember weeknight raiding in our guild alone there was close to 100 people. I recall the night population on our server being 1-4k

I think the sever pops here barely breaking 100 on some servers is mind boggling. Is the technology to game engine demands really changed so much that servers can't handle thousands of people anymore?

Incompetent because Bioware had 8 years of WoW to look at and learn from, and all they did was take the worst parts of WoW and bring it over to their game. They had other games to look at and learn from, build upon, and they didn't. Instead they took their formulaic single player RPG, and copy - pasted it into an MMO. Smacked on some multiplayer options and called it good.

Don't talk to me about vanilla WoW. I was there. I remember how broken it was, and I will never claim otherwise. However, I've been in certain other beta's for a while now... and those games have things that SWTOR still doesn't have. In beta stage. It's absolutely absurd the amount of modern MMO features that SWTOR didn't have and STILL doesn't have. Not to mention the absolutely crappy engine, etc.

I don't want instant gratification. I want some kind of sign that Bioware actually knows what they're doing. Telling everyone for months that we'll have Rated WZ's in 1.2 and then pulling them 12 hours before the patch drops isn't competent. It's borderline sketchy. Breaking the game and having an entire day of downtime just to fix it the day after 1.2 isn't competent. It shows that Bioware has absolutely no idea what they're doing.

Honestly, out of all the MMO's that I've played, Bioware is the first developer to single-handedly alienate over half of their player base in a span of less than three days. First the Rated WZ's fiasco, and then saying only people with level 50's are valued customers. Good job pissing off the PvP'ers, and a lot of casual and RP players Bioware.

I've been playing MMO's for 10+ years. I don't expect instant gratification, I expect to get what I'm paying for. In the 5 months that this game has been out, Bioware has yet to convince me that this product is worth the time and money. And I am far from being the only one that feels this way.

Give them time? It's a cut-throat business, and if you don't get your crap together after 5 months you probably never will.

There is lots of talent in the market place they could bring on, other industries do it all the time. For the supposed capitol spent on developing this "first MMORPG" doesn't fly as an excuse.

That being said, honestly there are some great aspects of the game (see quest cinematics) and then there are FUNDAMENTAL flaws as well, and then even further there are some pretty basic game features that are just absent.

You can only release a game once, and I get that it was probably released when it was in order to hit the xmas market, but sometimes premature release can hurt the long term performance.

Seriously your ways of comparison need to stop.... who cares if SW ToR is better than 4 month old WoW....

When something comes on the market it SHOULD BE BETTER THAN other similar things(in this case games)

SW ToR COMPETES WITH WOW in year 2012 not 2004....

By your logic when you buy a new car and it has 1950 characteristics you go back to the shop and complain and then the salesman tells you ''but this car is so much better than when they first released cars we didnt had 60 years of development so give us TIME ffs''

dumb reasoning is DUMB!

But its true with Guild Wars 2 Diablo III and also Tera online looming over the horizon SWTOR is in serious trouble, posters here may say it a million times over and over again but the fact remains that its true.

Diablo III is not MMO game and allthough many who palyed Diablo and Diablo II also played WoW or/and Starcraft there is no guarantee that they will also shift to Diablo III

Guild Wars 2 meanwhile will be the same ''disappointment'' as SW ToR is supposed to be there will be multiple things ''missing'' compared to Blizzards WoW and targeted audience is same...

TERA looks crap btw....

Seriously SW ToR is a game with multiple flaws where the most ridiculous one is bad community managment by Bioware (listening to forum whiners) closely followed by no Xfers and no server-only LFG tool

But what i personally say disappoints me the most is the fact that Hero Engine is ULTIMATE CRAP for allowing true MASSIVE EVIRONEMTN together with servers only handling a COUPLE of thousand people online

Modern MMOs servers and engines SHOULD handle 10.000+ players on a single server....

Ps: The only real reason why Guild Wars 2 is going to be doing relatively ''good'' is because it has no subscription fee.

Not to mention MOP and SW will take some and a overlooked game coming called firefall looks pretty fun.