Should BW cause "controlled mayhem" in this game?

NO I understand completely and I read all the way through, stop trying to turn your own insane idea into other peoples reading problems. You got a response back that you didn't like so you took to insulting anyone and everyone who disagree with you as a carebear and any number of other inane childish names. You have the mentality of a 5 year old when it comes to constructive criticism or worse yet a denial of your idea/s on the very face of them because people find them stupid. You're nothing more then a raging school yard child. Thats it. So continue on in your carefree ignorance is bliss routine because it is obvious that any amount of rational discussion with you is lost in some fairytale world where everyone PvP's and of course they are the only people who matter and their money is the only money thats good and valuable.


For the record, I do partake in the occasional PvP server time so your ****** assumptions only serve to make an *** out of you.

Based on what sample size and standard deviation?

As one of the "non-majority" that didn't like the event, I support you OP with the caviots stated in a previous post above.

A forum poll only advertised by proponents of an event is hardly a "representative" sample.

Not to mention the vast majority of people are to busy playing the game to even bother with the forums so his polls are meaningless.

Whoa whoa whoa there man, we will have non of this logical thought in here. Please refrain from that kind of behavior in the future as it is common knowledge that the OP is not only offended by such but will hear non of it to any degree anyways.

The point I made in one of my earlier posts still stands that programming rescources should not be dedicated towards PvP only servers for a PvP server only event.

On another note...

You brandish the word carebear around so much it makes me laugh.

I enjoy pvp. Let me clarify further I enjoy a fight in which it is very close and could go eiher way. I actually enjoy losing a good fight, then breaking it down with my opponent afterwards and figuring out what I could have done better.

I don't find any enjoyment out of running into a noobie zone and ganking every player there when they have little to no chance of fighting back. It's great that you think griefing lowbies is the defination of a PvP-er, however, I don't. When you want a game mechanic/world event that allows for you to prey on weaker players that's a griefer.

It would be like an MMA event between GSP and a kindergartener, I mean really if you think it would be fun to watch GSP pound some 5 year old good for you, because imo that is the equivilent of lowbie ganking, however, some of us prefer to have it be a real fight.

In DAoC when the keep doors were bashed down you needed massive amounts of wood to fix the doors. The wood was also pretty heavy. You basically needed a bunc of artisans at the door repairing it and a small army of people ferrying wood to them from the capitol city. Often times this army of people would be lowbies as the higher level players were out trying to recapture keeps. Sometimes you would have stealthers that would sit at the Portal Keep and kill people as they attempted to get wood to the relic keep. Griefer? no, the lowbies were actively participating in the defense of their realm.

The example I gave is drastically different from what you were suggesting. You were wanting a mechanic that allowed you to get into lowbie areas and "gank noobs" The two could not be more different in terms of basic concept.

I see the spectrum a lot broader.

At one end of the spectrum are people who are griefers and at the other end "carebears" but there are also lots of people who fall somewhere in the middle. They enjoy a good even fight and don't mind losing, but find griefing and griefers distasteful.

I'm getting exhausted by all the "dynamic world" BS I see all the time now. While I respect that you want to play in a "living dynamic " world...my wife and boss are dynamic enough. Games like gw2 and rift just don't appeal to me. I'm glad TOR and wow are theme park games, and I enjoy world events....but having a turd storm fall in my lap while I'm trying to level or turn stuff in is not my idea of a good time. Rift did that. I got to the point of kicking puppies when invasions would happen, and I just want to level. It's all good in theory, but my life is dynamic enough, I think sometimes ppl want more out of a game than it should provide. Not saying your wrong for wanting it. Just not my thing.

111 a "representative sample" especially when you can vote multiple times, seriously?

also, like many polls, your others are pretty misleading.

i understand you have an agenda, from this one it appears its to troll, and kudos to you for getting so many to respond, but this one, like the majority of your ideas and your general attitude with which you display them, can go fly a kite.

also, this ^^

Back in the Early days of Eq1 vanilla - Planes of power GMs would randomly spawn a Boss from a raid zone in some out door area and control the boss. Those times where great but a GM controlling a boss is MUCH tougher than a scripted fight. Ahh the good ole days of MMOs how they are lost to us.

Dude, from your original post the basic premise was a way for level 50 characters to get into noobie zones and kill them. The next 6 pages have been you defending that this should be fun or that making people angry is an effective tool for population retention.

If your premise was about making more PvP to be inclusive of all leves, the basic idea wouldn't be about entering noobie zones for a gankfest, OR at the very least when someone points to how this would be a gankfest I would expect the response to be "Yeah I hadn't considered how that could be used to grief lowbies" Instead however your posts are filled with so much vitriol to anyone who disagrees that for me it detracts from your credibility.

This whole thread has and is still revolving around how to kill lowbies, that's great if that's your cup of tea, but in the spectrum of pvp-ers there are the rest of us. I'd rather see that Ilum was turned into something more akin to what was relic raids in DAoC. The trouble with that however is in a 2 faction system there isn't a check/balance for worlds where the population is overwhelmingly imblanced.