Dungeon Finder Needed Badly

Are you kidding?!

I'm on Tatooine trying to figure out the ancient mysteries of the Force, when suddenly I get a Holo-Alert that those Clan Varad thugs are up to no good again, so I have my own starship swoop in to pick me up, fly me to the other side of the galaxy and drop me off to teach those Mandalorians another lesson. Then once the Mandalorians are well and truly schooled my own starship swoops in again, picks me up and flies me back to Tatooine.

That's absolutely ****** and exactly how it should be in the Star Wars universe.

Breaks the immersion. Ha! Sorry that's just silly.

Not having Permanent Death breaks the immersion factor.

The guild summit is ancient history at this point. I wouldn't read much into it anymore.

Are you referring to this:

"When the mod tells you so much information about the fight that you don’t even really need to pay attention to what is happening in the world at all, then we feel that crosses the line. I don’t know that we could put the djinn back in the bottle at this point though. It would feel really harsh to prevent addons from tracking some of that information, and in some cases we’re not even sure how we would prevent it."

That's talking about addons that tell you what to do during boss fights, it has nothing to do with Cross-Server Dungeon Finder.

Thank you for finally finding that.

I will admit the dungeon finder in WoW was flawed to begin with, however they have been improving it over time and as many people have put forward some great ideas, SWTOR could impliment a far better version of it themselves.

We definitely do need this and hopefully it will be implemented in the next major patch for all FPs and Heroics, as well as any activity for which you need a group.

I don't think we need a cross server LFG, but I am open to listen to alternatives.. As long as it is considered the impacts it might have on guilds or the gaming community in general..

WOW even nerfed raid bosses for people that used the LFG, further making guilds useless as it was actually easier to clear a raid in a pug group than it was in a guild raid group..

Like I said, I am open to alternatives.. But this game does NOT need a cross server LFG system..

You keep talking about community, but many of us are yet to see evidence of it in this game. You state it had a negative impact yet provide nothing but 'your word' for it. We have shown you factual evidence that the playerbase grew for a solid year after Cross Server LFD, which is more evidence to a positive result than to a negative result.

As I have stated many times, a Group Finder with the option to queue either Single Server or Cross Server. Your only reasons against Cross Server seem to be that evil magic makes people stop talking on their servers, and that nasty trolls steal your precious loot. You then started making up facts about how the Group Finder removed the need for Guilds, despite there still being a heavy amount of Guilds within the game.

As I said, no valid reason has been given against it.

The simple fact you are declaring that the game does not need one, proves you are not in a position to comment on it. You do not need it, but others do. You are not the entire playerbase.

Not true, you are able to LFG in places other than the Fleet. I've found Flashpoint groups using a player-made LFG channel (/cjoin LFG), from people advertising in /general on various worlds appropriate for the level range, and from good Heroic groups that decided to keep the action going with a few good Flashpoint runs.

The evidence is there, you know very well that we are not allowed to post links to the wow forum where people express their "anger" regarding the LFG tool. So if you want to see it, you should go there.

We also have not yet seen any compromise of you, all you keep saying is "dont use it" which is not a compromise at all.
A Compromise would be to leave out RP servers from automated tools, to tweak the LFG of wow to a manual tool which gives the power to those that group and not a random roll. Another would be to have somekind of tribunal like LOL has, so that bad behaivour can be punished and last but not least a filter system that allows players to select a specific "playstyle" when they queue up so that elitist´s can play with their own, just like casuals or people with a family could etc.
You need to understand that your "professionell way" of playing this game is just 1 possible way. There are people that dont want to rush, that dont want to skip, that dont want you to roll for everything, that might need to go afk for a min ... if they end up in a group with your kind, they cant enjoy the run and you cant either as you demand things they cant deliver and rage.
Those people need to be protected and thats why a tool like at wow is bad in design, as there they get actually punished and the elitist have advantages.
This is a compromise, to say "dont use" is not.

The thing you still did not understand is also the issue of xlfg or lfg. It does not matter if its xlfg or lfg - what matters is that you have no influence on the group that you get if its like at wow.
The only difference of xlfg and lfg is, that at a server only tool you usually have a community that you know. I like to explain this by the marking issues I always had at wow.

On my server we used skull for the first kill, moon for sheep, triangle for sleep or root etc. Playing at the LFG with people from other servers was hard - as a tank I always marked stuff and they didnt understand it. I saw skull sheeped, moon feared and all this.... but also the looting was totally different to my server and people especially on 3 others servers were very hardcore and rude, something my server was not and I was tired of permanently "gogogogog" commands.
Nevertheless is the biggest problem the automated selection, every server has a few rude people - some servers have more and some less. By having a manual selection you can skip those and because of this such a "feature" is mandatory in every LFG.

If the mistakes of wow´s tool are fixed, I would love to see a tool for raids, wz´s and dungeons - but if the mistakes are copied over, then I rather quit than playing further.

Edit:

As a sidenote, the wow tool has so many "carrots on a stick" that force you to use their tool - that it is pretty obvious that they do know the tool is not working that good. Why else punish people with 30 mins deserter if they leave, this could only be because many people didnt like the groups they got in

Just to add on to my prior post.

/cjoin LFG

Yes not everyone auto-joins it, but with advertising that includes asking others to spread the word it has on my server become exceptionally well used. I have been doing dailies on Ilum or Corellia with my main and seen a group LF1M Tank for Hammer Station and promptly whispered them and logged over to my mid-teens (at the time) Powertech Tank. We cleared Hammer Station repeatedly (it was a good group and had lots of fun) - I added them to my friends list and when they came back on a couple days later I was able to whisper them and we proceeded to roll Athiss repeaatedly.

A XLFG tool would have to include cross-server friends, would have to allow me to list alts I am not currently playing, and would have to allow me to form groups outside of the tool with people on other servers to duplicate this functionality. The cross-server friends would have to be limited to friending a specific cross-server character... not the account in general as people like me would find the idea of sharing all our characters on the "first group" a bit disconcerting.

"LFG in the Worlds not the Fleet"

For servers that have a healthy population I cannot stress enough my bafflement that people won't try to build flashpoint groups anywhere but on the Fleet. If the problem is that there aren't enough people on the Fleet and you can't find a group without spending an excessive amount of time, why not try the worlds where people of the right level range are doing missions? Looking for a group for BT Regular and not having any luck? Try Dromund Kaas. Looking for a group for a hard mode? Try Ilum, Belsavis, or Corellia where 50s will be doing their dailies.

Of course for low-pop servers this isn't going to work - but low population is its own problem. It can be fixed if Bioware merges servers or offers free transfers to achieve that effect. It can also be rectified by rerolling on a higher population server. I went from Shien to Lord Adraas, leaving behind my (at the time) highest level character (middle 30s) to do that. Previously I had left a queue-riddled server to go to Shien doing much the same thing. In both cases I decided it was better to take immediate action to hopefully improve my gaming experience than to be frustrated by a poor experience and wait for BW to wave some kind of magic wand to fix it.