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[Suggestion] Add another Blaster Pistol with the "A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler" model

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[Suggestion] Add another Blaster Pistol with the "A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler" model

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ZeroPlus
04.24.2012 , 08:07 AM | #1
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EDIT - 17 December 2013
IT LIVES!

The "R-30017 Aikion Blaster" is now available on the Cartel Market as of today (17/12/2013). The cost is 400 Cartel Coins.

It uses the exact same model as the "A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler" but with a darker colour scheme. In terms of sound, it uses the same sound as the Black Nebula Heavy Blaster. (Go here for a look and sound video published by Dulfy.)

My Gunslinger is dual-wielding the R-30017 as I type .

Guess I can finally remove the link from my signature (after a year and 8 months (I started this thread on March 24th, 2012) it can finally be retired ).

Thank you again Bioware.

(I'll leave the below post as is... for posterity .)
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PREAMBLE
The A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler is an iconic looking Blaster Pistol that is very reminiscent of the Colt 1851 Navy Revolver.
The model used by the A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler is used for only 2 moddable pistols, and only one of those can be used by players.
The only way to acquire the A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler is as a Smuggler quest reward for completing Chapter 1 of the Smuggler class story, and even then only if certain choices were made during the final dialog options of Chapter 1.

PROBLEM
The way the A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler is acquired raises some problems:
1) Since there is no way to currently preview weapons in-game, many Smugglers did not choose the A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler as the quest reward (even when it was presented to them) because they had no way of knowing what the weapon looked like.([EDIT] Weapons preview was added in Game Update 1.5: HK-51 Activated.)
2) Many Smugglers were not even offered the choice of the A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler as a quest reward if they were role-playing their Smuggler as Dark Side. (As an aside, the completion of Chapter 1 always offers a class specific weapon as a quest reward however, (and I may be wrong), I believe the Smuggler is the only class that is subject to this possibility of loosing out on a specific weapon model based on dialog choices.)
3) Smuggler Gunslingers who did choose the A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler as the quest reward are unable to acquire a second pistol that uses the same model so that they can dual-wield pistols with the same look. (As an aside: Smuggler Gunslingers that role play Dark Side, are offered a different pistol, that uses a completely different model. That model is not unique in the game, so it is possible for those Smuggler Gunslingers to acquire another pistol with the same model in case they wish to dual-wield the pistol they received for completing Chapter 1.)

SUGGESTIONS FOR SOLUTION
I respecfully request that Bioware add another Blaster Pistol that uses the same model as the A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler to the game.
If I may, I would like to suggest some ways in how this could be done.

1. As a [Heroic 4] Quest Reward
For example, there is a [Heroic 4] quest on Balmorra called "Hit 'em Where They Live". On completion, this quest offers class specific weapons as a quest reward choice. The A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler could be added to the list of quest rewards for Smugglers. (NOTE: The quest in question is offered as a suggestion. There may be better options available.)
In my opinion, this would be the ideal solution because:
a) It would involve minimal development time. No new assets would have to be created/added to the game. The A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler would just need to be added to the quest reward list as an option for Smugglers. (I am aware that the A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler would have a lower rating than the other quest rewards, but I doubt that any player would mind that fact considering that this would be the only other way to acquire it.)
b) It would allow Smugglers who did not acquire the A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler at the end of Chapter 1 (see above for possible reasons) another chance at acquiring it.
c) It would allow Smuggler Gunslingers to finally acquire a second A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler that they could then pair with the one they already own. (Or, if they did not have one already, it would allow them to acquire a pair over a 2 day period.)

2. As an additional reward for completing Chapter 1
On completion of Chapter 1, if the player made the right choices to be awarded the A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler *and* if the character was a Gunslinger, the player would be offered the A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler twice: one as a "Provided Reward" (for being a Gunslinger) and one as an "Optional Reward".
In my opinion this option, while interesting, is not as ideal as the 1st suggestion because:
a) There is still the possibility of loosing out on the A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler for the reasons stated above.
b) It would potentially involve more development time. The game would have to check the character's Advanced Class to ensure it was a Gunslinger. Code would have to be put in place to grant eligible players a second A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler in case they had already completed Chapter 1.

3. As an Armstech schematic
A new Armstech schematic for the creation of a "Ranged Main Hand, Ranged Off Hand" Blaster Pistol that uses the model of the A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler would be added to the game.
In my opinion, while this option would be interesting in terms of adding something that crafters could look forward to making and selling, it would not be ideal because:
a) There would have to be additional development time involved. The asset would have to be created and added to the game. A name would have to be decided for the item. The mode of acquisition of the schematic would have to be decided and implemented. Etc...
b) The resulting item would no longer be specific to Smugglers. I would imagine that many players would view this possibility in a less than pleasant light.

Thank you for taking the time to read this suggestion.
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[Suggestion] Add another Blaster Pistol with the "A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler" model = DONE!

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Kuronan
04.24.2012 , 08:30 AM | #2
I do love the A-300 heavy Sonic Needler, the model is unique and brings character to the blaster, I'd love to see it as an Armsmech schematic so that it could be used by other classes. The first time I held the weapon my jaw dropped that I was holding a revolver... until I deleted my Scoundrel due to a few reasons (including the lie that Scoundrel Heals are similar to WoW Druid Heals) I never discarded, nor ever even THOUGHT of replacing that blaster for the entire time I had it.

I don't mind if they make it a republic only weapon... but please, don't let the model go to waste... /sign
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CrixusBoR
04.24.2012 , 08:36 AM | #3
I would very much like two of these crit Aug'd

Well written OP.

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ZeroPlus
04.24.2012 , 11:38 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Kuronan View Post
I do love the A-300 heavy Sonic Needler, the model is unique and brings character to the blaster, I'd love to see it as an Armsmech schematic so that it could be used by other classes. The first time I held the weapon my jaw dropped that I was holding a revolver... until I deleted my Scoundrel due to a few reasons (including the lie that Scoundrel Heals are similar to WoW Druid Heals) I never discarded, nor ever even THOUGHT of replacing that blaster for the entire time I had it.

I don't mind if they make it a republic only weapon... but please, don't let the model go to waste... /sign
Yep. Having the weapon model be available as a Armstech schematic would have its advantages. I just think that it would involve too much work and the idea would fall by the way side in favor of other priorities. Which I tried to come up with suggestion that would be easier to implement (hopefully ).
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[Suggestion] Add another Blaster Pistol with the "A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler" model = DONE!

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ZeroPlus
04.24.2012 , 11:39 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by CrixusBoR View Post
I would very much like two of these crit Aug'd

Well written OP.
That would be one of the advantages of having the model available as an Armstech schematic.

Thanks for the compliment. I tried.
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[Suggestion] Add another Blaster Pistol with the "A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler" model = DONE!

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ZeroPlus
04.26.2012 , 08:31 AM | #6
Thinking about the Armstech schematic possibility and the way they can be acquired now in 1.2 from Reverse Engineering "orange" items, it actually would be best if there was a repeatable quest that awarded the A-300 (one of my suggestions above).

Not only would it allow any Smuggler to acquire the A-300, but it would also allow Smugglers with Armstech a way to acquire the A-300 and RE it repeatedly until they got the schematic (naturally, the A-300 would have to be RE'able). That would not only allow them to make it but if they crit it to sell it with an Augment slot.

The best of both worlds!

Now if only this becomes a reality.
If you seek answers, you must always ask questions. - Master Vandar Tokare.

[Suggestion] Add another Blaster Pistol with the "A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler" model = DONE!

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ptriz
04.30.2012 , 09:35 AM | #7
Having the availability of the A300 limited to 1 per customer, really favors the Scoundrels classes. If anything it should be the other way around - as in, make it available as dual wield with option to only use 1.

It is by far the coolest Smuggler gun in the game.
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04.30.2012 , 10:08 AM | #8
my gunslinger is called jon shannow, and i would love for another one of these babys, fits so well into his lore and i have looked high and low and the sonic is the only gun close to what he uses.
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ZeroPlus
05.02.2012 , 07:27 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
my gunslinger is called jon shannow, and i would love for another one of these babys, fits so well into his lore and i have looked high and low and the sonic is the only gun close to what he uses.
You're right! The dual A-300s would fit his lore perfectly.

Mine too! I'm a leather jacket wearing bad-*** smuggler who needs to protect himself in this lawless universe where Republic and Empire are at each others throat. What better way to do it than using 2 big bad-*** revolver-like blasters?
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[Suggestion] Add another Blaster Pistol with the "A-300 Heavy Sonic Needler" model = DONE!

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BenjaminminU
05.02.2012 , 07:33 AM | #10
Okay that is officially the coolest blaster model i have ever seen, bioware i must have two of these for my gunslinger, and another two for my future mercenary.
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