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So all GTNs are going to merge soon ?

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So all GTNs are going to merge soon ?

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yoshua
04.24.2012 , 08:26 AM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
What "ship" GTN?

I can see merging GTNs to one, but a ship GTN would be a huge mistake.
the ship gtn is a neutral gtn you can buy for 5 mil and i think level 28 legacy unlock. It's already in game, and i dont see how that would be a mistake. Who cares where someone clicks on the GTN box? it gets clicked on either way.
Yoshua Acero
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iceperson
04.24.2012 , 08:26 AM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by illgot View Post
Players can mail cross faction to any character on their account. The legacy tree has no effect on this.
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Pathlight-
04.24.2012 , 08:29 AM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by NDiggy View Post
Griefing by undercutting? Deflation? Thats just consequences of an open market. What you call clutter everyone else would call choice. Already many cross faction items change appearance if you mail them to an alt on another faction. You just sound like your looking to complain for the sake of complaining about one of the few great ideas BW has come up with in regards to this game.
Couldn't agree more.

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Blackardin
04.24.2012 , 08:35 AM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by yoshua View Post
the ship gtn is a neutral gtn you can buy for 5 mil and i think level 28 legacy unlock. It's already in game, and i dont see how that would be a mistake. Who cares where someone clicks on the GTN box? it gets clicked on either way.
You have a piggly wiggly in your car? Walmart? Or do you use your car to drive to them? LOL

Further. within a few weeks of it going live, the fleet will be a ghost town.

With that, the same people complaining that they want their ship GTN will be complaining, once again, that the game suxors because it feels empty....and this time they will be right.

Devs need to stop listening to the whiners that want everything simplified. Cross server LFG, shipboard mail and GTN. Why not just go with a single player game that has three companions?

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Malastare
04.24.2012 , 08:37 AM | #35
I got my degree in Computer Science not Business Administration, so obviously I'm missing some critical information here with regards to business and economics. Please bear with me:

Why is undercutting seen as griefing?

Here's a good example: Just yesterday, I crafted my first [Augmented] orange chest piece. Going to the GTN, I see some guy has already crafted the same item, about eight times. He's selling each of them for 100K. So... my completely not-trained-to-be-an-MBA mind said that I should sell mine for 95K. I mean, after all, I scavenged half of what I needed to make the thing and probably spent about 2K in missions to get the rest. I want mine to sell first (need the cash) and I'm willing to lose 5% of the price for that privilege. To my CS-trained mind

Clearly, if I had my MBA I'd realize how stupid this is and I'd have set the price at 100K or maybe 120K (prestige pricing, you know?). However, as I'm not educated in such matters, I don't fully understand why its griefing not to. Could some of the more informed players please explain this to me?

I mean, I could understand the guy feeling a bit annoyed that I grabbed a sale from him, but I'm just not smart enough to see how that's griefing. Are Amazon and NewEgg griefing the world? Are the really smart business people all setting their price to exactly match their competition, and only the dumb, griefing companies setting them just lower than the competition?

Even if I set the sale price at 1K credits, my weak mind can't see how this is really damaging. Clearly this is my fault and indicative of my lack of education. To me, the result to the world is the same as if the price were 95K: The other guy misses out on a 100K sale, some guy gets augmented-custom armor. The only difference is the location of 94K of credits. At best, this seems like I'm griefing myself, especially since there's a good chance the person who bought it is just going to put it back on the market for 100K (because they're smart and putting it back at 95k would clearly be griefing).

I'm confused. Someone please educate me.

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Nyteblades
04.24.2012 , 08:42 AM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by Malastare View Post
I got my degree in Computer Science not Business Administration, so obviously I'm missing some critical information here with regards to business and economics. Please bear with me:

Why is undercutting seen as griefing?

Here's a good example: Just yesterday, I crafted my first [Augmented] orange chest piece. Going to the GTN, I see some guy has already crafted the same item, about eight times. He's selling each of them for 100K. So... my completely not-trained-to-be-an-MBA mind said that I should sell mine for 95K. I mean, after all, I scavenged half of what I needed to make the thing and probably spent about 2K in missions to get the rest. I want mine to sell first (need the cash) and I'm willing to lose 5% of the price for that privilege. To my CS-trained mind

Clearly, if I had my MBA I'd realize how stupid this is and I'd have set the price at 100K or maybe 120K (prestige pricing, you know?). However, as I'm not educated in such matters, I don't fully understand why its griefing not to. Could some of the more informed players please explain this to me?

I mean, I could understand the guy feeling a bit annoyed that I grabbed a sale from him, but I'm just not smart enough to see how that's griefing. Are Amazon and NewEgg griefing the world? Are the really smart business people all setting their price to exactly match their competition, and only the dumb, griefing companies setting them just lower than the competition?

Even if I set the sale price at 100 credits, my weak mind can't see how this is really damaging. Clearly this is my fault and indicative of my lack of education. To me, the result to the world is the same as if the price were 95K: The other guy misses out on a 100K sale, some guy gets augmented-custom armor, and keeps a lot of extra credits. At best, this seems like I'm griefing myself, especially since there's a good chance the person who bought it is just going to put it back on the market for 100K (because they're smart and putting it back at 95k would clearly be griefing).

I'm confused. Someone please educate me.
Well said to me the griefer would be closer to those wanting to sell it at outrageous prices taking advantage of the fact if people want to upgrade they are forced into paying inflated prices. Screw that ill sell mine at what ever low price i deem fit and if it costs the people who want to be the jcpennys of the game a sale. Well just call me costco 8)
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yoshua
04.24.2012 , 08:43 AM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
You have a piggly wiggly in your car? Walmart? Or do you use your car to drive to them? LOL

Further. within a few weeks of it going live, the fleet will be a ghost town.

With that, the same people complaining that they want their ship GTN will be complaining, once again, that the game suxors because it feels empty....and this time they will be right.

Devs need to stop listening to the whiners that want everything simplified. Cross server LFG, shipboard mail and GTN. Why not just go with a single player game that has three companions?
other than the rakghoul outbreak my level 50 never hits the fleet except to goto raids anyways. i leave them on the planets with the dailies.

That being said, anyone under 50 will still use the fleet for rest xp, training, group finding.

plenty of reasons to be on the fleet, as for it being a ghost town? on alot of servers it already is.

It has been a few weeks since the neutral GTN went live on ships, and nothing has changed on our fleet yet. Highly doubt this is going to have a global impact. all I hear is that the sky is falling.
Yoshua Acero
Pre-Cu Bria Vet - Master Doc/Master swords

Paid 15$ at Gamestop for my CE!

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iceperson
04.24.2012 , 08:44 AM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
Further. within a few weeks of it going live, the fleet will be a ghost town.
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Malastare
04.24.2012 , 08:45 AM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
You have a piggly wiggly in your car? Walmart? Or do you use your car to drive to them? LOL

Further. within a few weeks of it going live, the fleet will be a ghost town.
Um.

It's already live.

The Fleets are fine. For my own part, I don't see much value in drawing people to the fleet if their only point in being there is to use the GTN. For all intents and purposes, they might as well be on their ship. They are unlikely to interact with or join any other players.

Of course, the shipboard GTN is a heavily premium item requiring a lot of credits and a high legacy level. Anyone who is eligible for that has already proven that they're involved in the game community. Or if they're not, then they've at least earned the right to be a hermit.

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GhoXen
04.24.2012 , 08:46 AM | #40
This will be excellent. It will make servers with population imbalance (i.e. every server) so much better. Republic players should especially rejoice.