EA to Release Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 2012 Results on May 7, 2012

SoE isn't? EA isn't with Warhammer Online? Even Warner Bros are at it now.

I understand what you're saying, but you don't seem to understand the MMORPG market.

So you weren't suggesting posting numbers here is a federal crime then?

Fair enough, I misunderstood, but then way post it at all?




So (just to be clear) you are saying someone posting SWTOR has XXXXX subs here is a federal crime?

Again no, it is NOT!

I was pointing out there there have been hundreds of MMOs.

Because people are on here repeatedly stating the the 1.7 million subscriber number was a flat out manipulation by EA. That the actual number is much lower. Now if you're just misinformed or naive, that's fine. But if it's say two guys acting in concert over a period of time on multiple message boards spreading that message, along with "EA is firing people because SWTOR is failing", among other messages, at the very least EA could sue them for libel. If these two guys made a profit on the stock market, then they are in trouble.

Again saying they might have isn't a federal crime either (it's not even A crime).

Yes it if were part of a concerted campaign to profit from it, but (again) that's not the same thing at all, it's something completely different.

For a start that 1.7m number can include everything I mentioned and still be a perfectly legal statement.

Trying to scaremonger that someone randomly saying SWTOR has XXXXX subs is going to get them a federal conviction is just plain disingenuous and wrong.

What will be telling in their 10-K will be under the risk factors. They will have to disclose any potential risks which could impact future earnings (declining subscriptions, not being able to release content, competition). I’m sure that SWTOR will be mentioned since its subscription based and they are counting on the revenues. So any worries they have will be disclosed there.

What are you talking about. I set forth a fact pattern which is what you would typically find in a complaint filed by the SEC to the DOJ (e.g., X and Y did A and B over a course of Z period, which establishes [beyond the required legal standard] that they were acting in concert and wilfully in an attempt to manipulate stock etc. etc. etc.). Facts support your claim. You establish the facts in court. Legal theory and law is interpreted by the arbiter (whether it be judge or other body).

And there is no such thing as a "perfectly legal statement." There is "misleading" and there is "material," both of which are argued by the lawyers in court. You don't need to prove something before your case gets heard, that's what the trial is for.

And no, I"m not scaremongering anyone. I'm saying that people are spouting ridiculous claims around here without realizing that in the real world, when executive officers and boards make public statements, they are very cognizant of the litigation/regulatory risks involved and don't take such risks lightly.

If there numbers fall and subscription drop off the map i expect TOR not to be Origins exclusive anymore, if you could grab just fifteen percent of steam concurrent users that puts you in the ball park of six hundred thousand purchases, after steam takes its cut i think that equals around 24mil in profit but wait there more, after sub's come in you've now brought that number up to hundred and twenty mill a year minimum believe me you can't say no to that. But before any of that happens people who's vision was to make this game exclusive to origins will be fired