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Why non-stop alt leveling will fail.

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Why non-stop alt leveling will fail.

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JeramieCrowe
04.24.2012 , 07:50 AM | #211
Quote: Originally Posted by VegaPhone View Post
Not the sole purpose. After reading all that I have written, you did not get the hint I am talking about introducing more to the game other than playing alts?

Or do you like to take things out of context just to argue?

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The last thing i said, previously.

MMO sets a certain expectation. So when you say as an MMO the end game is playing alts, thats 1. not reassuring 2. not what people expect.

Also playing alts would not be so bad if the quests were more dynamic for side quests. Like area quests to trigger an effect, but it triggers the quest giver runs in to give quest.
I haven't played an MMO yet, including TOR, where playing alts was all there was to do. TOR has more endgame for a 4 month old MMO than any other MMO at 4 months old. The only one that comes close is RIFT. Playing all 8 storylines is in ADDITION to TOR's endgame, not instead of.
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Zhiroc
04.24.2012 , 07:55 AM | #212
I've done Coruscant 6 times now (3 pre-release, 3 post), and Tython 5. I haven't spacebarred through any of the side quests. So far, I've only done 3 main classes. My next alt will probably redo a main class so that I can pick a different AC, but I might rethink that because of the legacy perks I'd get doing another class.

It's kinda funny hearing people say that the story questing is boring more than once through, and then they burn through the much more limited dailies and raids over and over again. I guess the point of the raid is simply the challenge, but eh, I haven't even done any FPs on my 50 past the Jedi Prisoner series. It's the endgame that's boring to me.

I can at least see why PvP devotees like it--each match is unique in a way. But I'll never PvP myself. I'm just not interested in competitive play, especially when such competition is based on gear-grinding more than skill.

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Kthx
04.24.2012 , 08:01 AM | #213
Quote: Originally Posted by gunsligger View Post
Bioware's main marketing strategy for promoting this game is based around the concept of leveling multiple alts in an attempt to "buy time" as you will. With that said, I have yet to meet a majority of persons more interested in leveling an alt than that of the populace that's more interested in achieving max level (quickly) and playing end game. I have heard time and time, again and again by unbiased players, that they're not concered with a story line, it's the end game that's the beginning of the game.
Since you are likely to hang out with like-minded players, I don't know why you would expect to be able to "meet a majority of persons." I have one level 50 main and three alts (one in the teens and two in the 30s). I really enjoy leveling up my alts, and swap back and forth between my main and them. So how is it that you think your style of game is representative?

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ekwalizer
04.24.2012 , 08:03 AM | #214
Quote: Originally Posted by DrSlate View Post
There's a little problem with your math. When you level up alts, many of the quests are the same. You just fly through those without watching the story cuz you already know it. It is much faster to level up alts while enjoying the story than your formula assumes.
Spot on.
I have four level 50s on my main server, along with a 26 and a 22.
for some people the story is important. Just as important as end game.

The OP needs to realize that BW took a huge leap of faith with this game - recognizing that it would likely be a niche market. The power levelers and hardcore WoW raiders are already gone, what we are left with are people who actually, for the most part, like this game.

There is plenty of End Game content. I can't think of a single MMO five months post launch with so much to do. Our problem, is there are about five times the number of servers that there needs to be.
Let this sink in, this game is Free to Play, boasts one of the most popular IPs on the planet and yet 76.47% of the servers are empty.

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Lekkarion
04.24.2012 , 08:11 AM | #215
I'll throw my 2 cents in,

I've been playing MMO's since Ultima Online, though I'll say I didn't really get into them till EQ. The vast majority of people who play MMO's will have an alt. The endgame crowd will usually have multiples. They know the group they play will will need Tanks and Healers in addition to the always more popular DPS classes. People roll alts to fill the gaps they need for their endgame content.

What bioware has done is made that less oppressive by giving that alt its own storyline. Even though I'm going to visit the same planets again as I level, the reason I'm doing it is different. For the most part, the planet quests tie in well with my Class quests so I don't have to do a bunch of back and forth. It allows me to level a little easier.

As for story, it's a fun thing to do while you level. It takes a little of the grind out of the game.
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Defdaddy
04.24.2012 , 08:25 AM | #216
Quote: Originally Posted by greenleef View Post
I just leveled my 4th 50 and I got to say I'm getting sick of it myself I'm a casual gamer and only level alts because raiding is way to easy so the guild will do them in one night and with every boss droping so many items after doing a couple time noone needs any loot. And pvp ques take so long on my standard server that sitting in fleet for 10 to 20 minutes with nothing else to do is boring. I look at this game as single player with a few bad mmo options.
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kevlarto
04.24.2012 , 08:27 AM | #217
Quote: Originally Posted by Captain_Zone View Post
Nice opinion, bro.
Yep and you know what they say about opinions..

I like how people post thier opinions as if it is fact and everyone must think that way../facepalm
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sharkfinsix
04.24.2012 , 08:28 AM | #218
Quote: Originally Posted by gunsligger View Post
And that's to build a character only to stop at 50, rinse and repeat. Why on earth would anyone in their right mind look forward to leveling something to max (Which is the main goal in the first place). Only to stop and do the same thing all over again ?
funny i thought the main goal is to have fun....and i am having fun, both doing endgame on my 50 merc, and running amok with 7 other alts. Mission accomplished!

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DieAlteHexe
04.24.2012 , 08:40 AM | #219
Quote: Originally Posted by VegaPhone View Post
Not the sole purpose.....
For some...yes, it pretty much is.

Sorry, but that's the way of it.

Not that I object at all to more content being added...ever!
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Socialist
04.24.2012 , 08:47 AM | #220
I hate the whole end game context.

arrogant kids, boring raiding, equipment and arms race et al.

I much prefer rolling quite a bunch of alts, and hopefully when I am done, end game will be a better place.


I don't like PvP either, but still I am playing in a PvP server as the occasional random encounter with a republic player on the wilds is something interesting. Far better than Warzones.
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