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The Rakghoul Plague Outbreak Event - Best Ending ever!

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The Rakghoul Plague Outbreak Event - Best Ending ever!

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Melycinya
04.24.2012 , 03:36 AM | #101
Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
so bw saying "This is an expliot, don't do it" would make more people do it ? yeah right.
"To keep the Service a compliant, fun, fair and safe gaming environment for everyone, you may not engage in any of the following behavior:

17. Exploit any bug in the Service to gain unfair advantage in the game and/or communicate the existence of any such bug (either directly or through the public posting) to any other user of the Service."

We aren't allowed to share the existance of exploits, because it would educate others who might decide to try it out before it's fixed. Bioware telling us about it before they roll out a fix would have the same effect (or possibly a greater one, as it would be an official, attention-grabbing post), and thus be something they would avoid doing.

It's not that it would make people do it, it's that it would spread the knowledge of it, essentially enabling more exploiters.
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RDeanOU
04.24.2012 , 03:37 AM | #102
Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
if force storm or any player ability could force pvp then you'd be correct. The means came from bw and were not corrected, not even a word was mentioned so the smart money is on me. Your wrong. Note: I am on a pvp server, I normally play on pve servers and just chose something different for this game.

The theme isn't hard to follow if your not being closed minded. Look at the locations of the dailies they were meant for cross faction skirmishes, the fact the plague flags you from an opposing faction(as it should) and etc. It's all there you guys are just sticking your heads in the sand. I believe whole hardily players were meant to attack/kill other players in this event and I'm not a big pvp player. I like world pvp, that's about it. Think about it.
I will try one last time because I really want you to get this even though I am increasingly coming to believe that you lack the capacity to understand.

Your whole thing about force storm causing this....that actually was happening a couple months ago. Bioware fixed it after a while, but it did take a while to fix because those kinds of technical issues can be difficult to resolve. The people who exploited that glitch (and probably claimed the whole time that it wasn't a glitch or else Bioware would have fixed it already exactly as you are doing now) eventually had their accounts banned because they know they aren't supposed to circumvent the rules of a PVE server that specify someone must agree to PVP by flagging themselves.

This glitch is obviously a recurrence of the glitch that was causing aoe abilities to unintentionally flag. This is new code and we know it never got tested b/c the event was a surprise.

They didn't fix it because it would have taken too much effort to fix given the short duration of the event and they didn't mention it because they don't advertise exploits because they don't want to inform people on how they can break the rules.

As far as your claim that the smart money is on you...have you noticed that you are pretty much the only person in this thread that isn't comprehending this? Do you think that maybe...just maybe everyone else is understanding this very basic and very simple idea that anytime you force someone to PVP on a PVE server you are breaking the rules.

This "theme" of pvp isn't present. It's not a matter of it being difficult to detect....it simply isn't present. I participated in the event every single day. I did the dailies where people of both factions were trying to complete their objectives and I even killed a world boss. Guess how many of those objectives required any measure of pvp? Zero...not one. Do you know how many times I got flagged for PVP in all of that? It happened once. I was standing at the vendor the first day and someone happened to explode on me.

That isn't a theme dude. That is a glitch.

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Ancen
04.24.2012 , 03:38 AM | #103
Quote: Originally Posted by SoonerJBD View Post
I have no sympathy for people who flag themselves for PvP on a PvE server and then run around on a world where there are tons of players from both factions and expect not to get ganked. I was flagged myself for much of the night and had fun engaging in world PvP. But on a PvE server, you have to voluntarily flag for PvP. That is the whole point of a PvE server. People who exploit a bug to force others to PvP when they don't want to are violating the terms of service on a PvE server. When they try to deny those same players access to a vendor, that is clearly not allowed.
Well said. I agree with this completely, and... I can't stop laughing when people ambush me while PVP-flagged (I play on a PVE server since I like to choose when to be in danger) get owned, then combat-stealth away to try to escape. Overall however I loved that it was getting people to (purposefully) flag for PVP with so many areas imps/repubs were crossing paths... I got some great spontaneous fights in and had fun with it.

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Rowandiki
04.24.2012 , 03:38 AM | #104
Quote: Originally Posted by Veniras View Post
You are wrong and I will "prove" it by using the same faulty logic as you.
If this was a PVP-event, the vendor would only have sold Expertise-gear.

Now, Stop using faulty logic!
I said pvp based, meaning involving pvp. I didn't say it was an event made only for pvpers, I never made that claim. It was an event that involved pvp and the proof of it is the expertise gem, the ffa pvp area and daily quest location. Where is the pve area end boss ? Oh we didn't get one.

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Ashlian
04.24.2012 , 03:39 AM | #105
Quote: Originally Posted by thomasmeadows View Post
On my server the imps tried to camp it. The pubs got 20 people from our local pvp guild. We slaughtered them . They came back once, we killed them again, then we left(we didn't counter camp the vendor).

The reason we did not counter camp the vendor is because its boring and a waste of time. I really never understood the people who get thrills out of griefing. It is not fun for either side. Its like playing a console game with god mode on. Or playing chess by yourself. You always know who the winner is and what the outcome will be. How is that fun? I'd rather watch grass grow. Atleast I don't know what direction the blades will sprout.

Is it fun to watch your favorite sport team when one of the teams is getting slaughtered? no not really. Its a much funner watch if the game is tight and close. Even if your team looses they played a great game.

The people camping the vendor are the same type of people that run bots on call of duty and battlefield that think they are awesome when they are on top of the leader board while using mods. The people that like to do this are unfortunately children. These people also are highly likely to have sith characters because they are "cooler"

And for those wondering...
We have a 3/1 imp/pub ratio. But the imps on our server suck so it takes like 8 of us to kill 12 of them. So it balances in that way alone. We win 2/3rds of our pvp war zones.
Thank you for pointing this out. It was sadly not the case with a couple of hours left before server down that we could get enough people to guard the vendor (unlike the case in some previous posts, when our Pub side retook the vendor from the Imps camping it, we did things like.....dance with our companions rather than attempt to grief the Imps coming to peacefully use the vendor. Because slaughtering unsuspecting people or lowbies is just.....not much fun). They should have put two vendors near the quest dropboxes. Level 50's camping the 20-somethings (and the lone level 50's) that were doing the quests on faction imbalanced servers where we could rarely field opposing forces just made the event more of a trial than a fun thing to do. And I did get everything I wanted with the exception of using my last 20 DNA for an additional companion lockbox. Just found it rather sad that the Imperials on our server (they did this all week, but not in Ops numbers, so we could counter it) found it necessary to deny Pubs the chance to use the vendor on a time-limited event ending in a very brief period. Doesn't prove anything but how childish they were. I had Imps apologizing in general chat and whisper to my small imperial who tried to make it in time with my DNA samples when it became clear begging and pleading would have no result. Pity a few jerks have to spoil things in general for people at the last hour. And here's hoping the vendor, when it comes back, is placed in multiple faction neutral locations. Piss poor design choice unless they wanted to encourage griefing.

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Vonb
04.24.2012 , 03:40 AM | #106
Quote: Originally Posted by Vid-szhite View Post
My server ended the same way, only even bigger. Republic players started an ops group to camp the vendor, so the Imperials had to take matters into their own hands and form an even bigger ops group, to the limit, to drive them out. Once that got boring, we decided to get even more brutal by overrunning their base nearby. Yes, the one with all those level 50 Champions guarding it. We eviscerated them as they landed, anyone who wasn't flagged soon would be because of the plague bombs we had, valiantly taking off their clothes and sacrificing themselves so that we could slaughter the unflagged pubs by the dozens.

We planned to head to Anchorhead next, then we realized we couldn't even get to anchorhead, so we returned to the vendor for one last furious battle. The Republic won the first round, then we came back and retook it right as the server was shutting down.

This was on a PvE server too, which made the QQ from people with Republic mains but Empire alts even funnier.
Hi, you enjoy griefing, that's obvious. The Internet allows you to behave like that. I don't mind what happens on a PVP server but what you did there just highlights massive flaws of the implementation of PVP flagging on PVE servers.
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Rowandiki
04.24.2012 , 03:42 AM | #107
Quote: Originally Posted by SoonerJBD View Post
Player vs. Environment (PvE) - In Star Wars™: The Old Republic™, Player vs. Environment servers serve as the "default." On these servers, you have the option to role-play as your character, and player- vs.- player fights must be agreed to by both sides.
This says that a PvE server means you have the option to avoid PvP of any kind. And many players choose to never PvP. What differentiates a PvE server from a PvP server is that PvP must be agreed to by both sides. This is, in fact, the only difference.

This is also your notification that what they were doing was a glitch. Bioware does not have to remind you to follow the terms of service every time you find an exploit. If you take advantage of an exploit, you can be banned. You are expected to know the terms of service.
post something on THIS EVENT! Otherwise your spamming the same nonsense. If events don't challenge players in different ways then they'll all be boring and not worth doing. Do you guys seriously see no merit in banding together and defeating the enemy blocking your path ? I love it when players come together and do that, this was engineered to do that. Again post something they've said about this event, if you were right, then why havent they ? According to you it's clearly against tos, right ? why havent they confirmed it ? Big surprise.

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Rowandiki
04.24.2012 , 03:43 AM | #108
Quote: Originally Posted by Banicks View Post
You obviously don't see the real picture.

Peace is a lie, and the Jedi are arrogant. They will justify their actions as peaceful and self defence, yet call Imperials war mongerers.

That is my RP for the night.
heh, Thanks for that. I needed the laugh.

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SoonerJBD
04.24.2012 , 03:44 AM | #109
Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
I said pvp based, meaning involving pvp. I didn't say it was an event made only for pvpers, I never made that claim. It was an event that involved pvp and the proof of it is the expertise gem, the ffa pvp area and daily quest location. Where is the pve area end boss ? Oh we didn't get one.
There were three world bosses for this event. Two were in PvE areas. Choosing to go after the one in the PvP area was voluntary. Those who didn't want to PvP weren't required to go into the PvP area. Again, the basic premise of a PvE server.

There are lots of quest objectives on lots of planets in areas accessible by both factions. That does not mean Bioware intends players on a PvE server should be forced to PvP when they want to go those areas.

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RDeanOU
04.24.2012 , 03:44 AM | #110
I am truly amazed at the aggressiveness with which some people avoid understanding things. It's as if they think being unable to grasp a concept is something to be proud of.

Wow....I mean just....wow!