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The Rakghoul Plague Outbreak Event - Best Ending ever!

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The Rakghoul Plague Outbreak Event - Best Ending ever!

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SoonerJBD
04.24.2012 , 03:24 AM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
Right, so for the players who didnt want to PvP, werent flagged for PvP and got force-flagged by enemies and then ganked (usually by groups)... those you dont feel sorry for?
This was the most unseemly part of it for me. Forcing someone to be flagged for PvP on a PvE server is bad and against the terms of service.

But only PvPing when you have the clear number advantage is cowardly. For a while, I stayed near the vendor and picked off lvl 50s that left the larger group. Always lvl 50s and always by myself.

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Rowandiki
04.24.2012 , 03:25 AM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by SoonerJBD View Post
NPCs attacking you is the definition of PvE, a definition which you clearly don't understand even though it is incredibly simple.
show me where your own faction npc's attack you other then this.

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Rowandiki
04.24.2012 , 03:26 AM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by Sharee View Post
Last time i checked, 'rakghouls' were not a PvP faction. The idea that 'eradicating rakghouls' somehow makes this a PvP even is funny indeed.



Or maybe they just did not want to draw even more attention to the exploit, same as every other exploit that they are aware of that isn't already fixed

Rule of thumb, if an action goes against a server's term of service, it is illegal. Bioware not specifically telling you it is illegal does not make it legal.
so bw saying "This is an expliot, don't do it" would make more people do it ? yeah right.

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OddballEasyEight
04.24.2012 , 03:27 AM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
if force storm or any player ability could force pvp then you'd be correct. The means came from bw and were not corrected, not even a word was mentioned so the smart money is on me. Your wrong. Note: I am on a pvp server, I normally play on pve servers and just chose something different for this game.

The theme isn't hard to follow if your not being closed minded. Look at the locations of the dailies they were meant for cross faction skirmishes, the fact the plague flags you from an opposing faction(as it should) and etc. It's all there you guys are just sticking your heads in the sand. I believe whole hardily players were meant to attack/kill other players in this event and I'm not a big pvp player. I like world pvp, that's about it. Think about it.
Force storm and other player abilities used to be able to force PvP... that was a glitch... they admitted that and fixed it...
They wouldnt go out and say that this was a glitch since it was all going to last just a week anyway, no need fixing it and definately no need drawing more attention to it.

And the plague only flags you if you get infected by another player that is already flagged (exactly how it used to work with AOE abilities like force storm, but that was aknowledged as a glitch and fixed).
Youre wrong and you know it but your dislike for people playing on PvE servers seem to be so strong that you cannot face the truth.

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But both contain some of the other......so your point ?
Point being that PvP on PvE servers are VOLUNTARY... and being forced into PvP is not VOLUNTARY...

youre either being extremely dense or youre just ignoring what everyone is saying because "its cool to gank carebares"
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Sharee
04.24.2012 , 03:28 AM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
you guys are just sticking your heads in the sand.
It is you who is sticking head under sand. The terms of service of a server are the law of the server. The law stands above any events or their interpretations. If the terms of service say PvP is only possible after a mutual agreement, and you find a way to PvP without mutual agreement, your actions break the terms of service, period. Any form of rationalizing like "this is a pvp event" or "if it was exploit they would have told me" and the like is irrelevant. You attack the other player without his consent on a PvE server = you are using an exploit.

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SoonerJBD
04.24.2012 , 03:29 AM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
if force storm or any player ability could force pvp then you'd be correct. The means came from bw and were not corrected, not even a word was mentioned so the smart money is on me. Your wrong. Note: I am on a pvp server, I normally play on pve servers and just chose something different for this game.

The theme isn't hard to follow if your not being closed minded. Look at the locations of the dailies they were meant for cross faction skirmishes, the fact the plague flags you from an opposing faction(as it should) and etc. It's all there you guys are just sticking your heads in the sand. I believe whole hardily players were meant to attack/kill other players in this event and I'm not a big pvp player. I like world pvp, that's about it. Think about it.
See, Force Storm (and other AOE attacks) DID do this for a while until they fixed the bug. They did not announce it was a bug until after they fixed it. And no, the smart money is not on you. The dumb money isn't even on you. You are the only one who agrees with you.

The event was clearly meant to encourage world PvP, but it was clearly not meant to force PvE players on a PvE server to PvP against their will because that goes against the entire concept of a PvE server. A concept you are either unwilling or unable to grasp.

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OddballEasyEight
04.24.2012 , 03:29 AM | #97
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SoonerJBD
04.24.2012 , 03:33 AM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
show me where your own faction npc's attack you other then this.
This happens numerous times at various points in the story. NPCs attacking you is PvE. Players attacking you is PvP. Why is this difficult to understand?

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SoonerJBD
04.24.2012 , 03:35 AM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
so bw saying "This is an expliot, don't do it" would make more people do it ? yeah right.
Yes. This is why the bank doesn't tell you how to open their vault and steal all the money inside.

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Rowandiki
04.24.2012 , 03:35 AM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
If the enemy player wasnt flagged for PvE the vendor would have been easily selectable even though they were positioned on top of him...
I still have problems on fleet when they stack. Whether or not this is true I have no way to know because for me on fleet if they stack in the big speeders I can't select the vendor. Even people on our side would say they needed people to move so I'm having a hard time believing this to be the case.

Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
Right, so for the players who didnt want to PvP, werent flagged for PvP and got force-flagged by enemies and then ganked (usually by groups)... those you dont feel sorry for?
If they stood there and let themselves be infected, no problem. If the other player chased them down to infect/flag them then you have a point. Given the timing to explode, how could this become a reliable thing. It took 20-30min of waiting to explode if not attacked, how were they relaibly flagging people ?


Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
Yes, but all those areas have a 10 second warning. Also, you cannot damage another player unless that player is FIRST flagged for PvP... the oposite was true with this glitch, if YOU were flagged for PvP and you infected an enemy player that was NOT flagged, that player would be insta-flagged, just like it used to be with AOE (which was confirmed as a bug and fixed)
Because you can attack, not being able to attack would be a glitch.

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Face it, this was a glitch
Disagree.
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
and it was abused by griefers that wanted to gank other players in PvP but were to chicken-**** to do it on a real PvP server...
maybe /shrug or maybe not.