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The Rakghoul Plague Outbreak Event - Best Ending ever!

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The Rakghoul Plague Outbreak Event - Best Ending ever!

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Sharee
04.24.2012 , 03:08 AM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
This is becoming funny to me.

Keep in mind this was a pvp based/themed event, to "eradicate the rakghoul plague."
Last time i checked, 'rakghouls' were not a PvP faction. The idea that 'eradicating rakghouls' somehow makes this a PvP even is funny indeed.

Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
If it was a glitch we would have been told not to infect players from the opposite faction. You guys are just wrong.
Or maybe they just did not want to draw even more attention to the exploit, same as every other exploit that they are aware of that isn't already fixed

Rule of thumb, if an action goes against a server's term of service, it is illegal. Bioware not specifically telling you it is illegal does not make it legal.

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Rowandiki
04.24.2012 , 03:12 AM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by Mechrophilia View Post
Incorrect:

While the plaguespore explosions may or may not have been intended to cause PVP on PVE servers, the physical blocking of vendors, by either side, is griefing. And it is the more important issue at hand (to me).

On Drooga's Pleasure Barge, (PVE server), some imperials flagged themselves, got on their mounts, and then positioned themselves on top of the jawa Vendor in such a specific way that it prevented anyone from acquiring a clickable target on the vendor (two hours before the event's conclusion). A few of us sacrificed ourselves by flagging and trying to use cuncussion-type abilities to push them away from the vendor, but they were always able to reposition and prevent players from accessing the Jawa.

This is griefing... and I'm quite sure that some of the players ended up not being able to spend the DNA they had to grind all week for. That's shameful.

People on both sides should stop to remember that there's a person on the other side of the opposing player's computer. PVPing someone unawares is one thing, but preventing players from having access to reward content that they worked hard for, is just thoughtless.
Blocking the vendor is a bad move on a pve server but they flagged to allow you a chance to get it. If they hadn't flagged and you guys werent able to get to the vendor then that would be bad. Because on pve you'd have no way to move them. By flagging they are saying if you want it come take it, you have an option. If you want the vendor you can spend the time trying to select him or fight, that seems fair. On pvp it's definately fair.

The more I think about it the more I only feel bad for the low level player who isn't an alt and working towards his reward. That's who I feel sorry for if they are on a pve server, getting caught up in that is unfortunate. On a pvp server I only kill them if imps are saying they're getting ganked in chat.


PVE servers still contain several areas of pvp and the ability for the player to flag. So being on a pve sever doesn't equal the absence of pvp just that it is not the major focus of the server. Your offered some protections, but it's still there. Simply put if this was a glitched, an acknowledged glitch then bw would/should have said something or removed the event all together.

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Sharee
04.24.2012 , 03:17 AM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
Simply put if this was a glitched, an acknowledged glitch then bw would/should have said something or removed the event all together.
When was the last time you saw bioware post "Hey guys, there is a glitch in our game, where doing X has unintended consequences, do not do it!"

...right.

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OddballEasyEight
04.24.2012 , 03:17 AM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
Blocking the vendor is a bad move on a pve server but they flagged to allow you a chance to get it. If they hadn't flagged and you guys werent able to get to the vendor then that would be bad. Because on pve you'd have no way to move them. By flagging they are saying if you want it come take it, you have an option. If you want the vendor you can spend the time trying to select him or fight, that seems fair. On pvp it's definately fair.
If the enemy player wasnt flagged for PvE the vendor would have been easily selectable even though they were positioned on top of him...

Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
The more I think about it the more I only feel bad for the low level player who isn't an alt and working towards his reward. That's who I feel sorry for if they are on a pve server, getting caught up in that is unfortunate. On a pvp server I only kill them if imps are saying they're getting ganked in chat.
Right, so for the players who didnt want to PvP, werent flagged for PvP and got force-flagged by enemies and then ganked (usually by groups)... those you dont feel sorry for?

Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
PVE servers still contain several areas of pvp and the ability for the player to flag. So being on a pve sever doesn't equal the absence of pvp just that it is not the major focus of the server. Your offered some protections, but it's still there. Simply put if this was a glitched, an acknowledged glitch then bw would/should have said something or removed the event all together.
Yes, but all those areas have a 10 second warning. Also, you cannot damage another player unless that player is FIRST flagged for PvP... the oposite was true with this glitch, if YOU were flagged for PvP and you infected an enemy player that was NOT flagged, that player would be insta-flagged, just like it used to be with AOE (which was confirmed as a bug and fixed)

Face it, this was a glitch and it was abused by griefers that wanted to gank other players in PvP but were to chicken-**** to do it on a real PvP server...
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Veniras
04.24.2012 , 03:17 AM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
Keep in mind this was a pvp based/themed event, to "eradicate the rakghoul plague." That's why players became flagged for pvp, it was not a glitch.
You are wrong and I will "prove" it by using the same faulty logic as you.
If this was a PVP-event, the vendor would only have sold Expertise-gear.

Now, Stop using faulty logic!

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SoonerJBD
04.24.2012 , 03:19 AM | #86
Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
PVE servers still contain several areas of pvp and the ability for the player to flag. So being on a pve sever doesn't equal the absence of pvp just that it is not the major focus of the server. Your offered some protections, but it's still there. Simply put if this was a glitched, an acknowledged glitch then bw would/should have said something or removed the event all together.
Player vs. Environment (PvE) - In Star Wars™: The Old Republic™, Player vs. Environment servers serve as the "default." On these servers, you have the option to role-play as your character, and player- vs.- player fights must be agreed to by both sides.
This says that a PvE server means you have the option to avoid PvP of any kind. And many players choose to never PvP. What differentiates a PvE server from a PvP server is that PvP must be agreed to by both sides. This is, in fact, the only difference.

This is also your notification that what they were doing was a glitch. Bioware does not have to remind you to follow the terms of service every time you find an exploit. If you take advantage of an exploit, you can be banned. You are expected to know the terms of service.

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Rowandiki
04.24.2012 , 03:21 AM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by RDeanOU View Post
I'm not sure where you got the notion that this was a pvp based event when the only thing in the entire event that required pvp was killing one world boss inside of a pvp area.

I also don't know where you get the notion that simply participating in the event or getting the plague flagged you for pvp when it has been explained to you multiple times that this was not the case.

This was a specific abuse of an in game mechanic (aoe effects unintentionally flagging nearby players). It was very clearly a glitch and the fact that you are struggling so hard to understand this is actually kind of sad.
if force storm or any player ability could force pvp then you'd be correct. The means came from bw and were not corrected, not even a word was mentioned so the smart money is on me. Your wrong. Note: I am on a pvp server, I normally play on pve servers and just chose something different for this game.

The theme isn't hard to follow if your not being closed minded. Look at the locations of the dailies they were meant for cross faction skirmishes, the fact the plague flags you from an opposing faction(as it should) and etc. It's all there you guys are just sticking your heads in the sand. I believe whole hardily players were meant to attack/kill other players in this event and I'm not a big pvp player. I like world pvp, that's about it. Think about it.

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Rowandiki
04.24.2012 , 03:21 AM | #88
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
Thats an interesting point of view... its kinda like saying "people playing pintball expect to never, ever be punched in the face by another player and when it happens they go completely ape ****. They are also the same one's who happen to think they are the worlds greatest warriors.
MMA fighters seem to not have this problem."

PvP servers are ABOUT pvp... PvE servers are about PvE... see the difference there?
But both contain some of the other......so your point ?

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Banicks
04.24.2012 , 03:23 AM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by ConradLionhart View Post
You know, the roles are supposed to be reversed here. It should have been the Empire breaking the truce and the Republic fighting them back.
You obviously don't see the real picture.

Peace is a lie, and the Jedi are arrogant. They will justify their actions as peaceful and self defence, yet call Imperials war mongerers.

That is my RP for the night.
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Rowandiki
04.24.2012 , 03:23 AM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by Drakkip View Post
You're just wrong on so many levels
1) being infected on a PVE server did NOT automatically flag you I was infected several times and never flagged
2) The terms of a PVE server as defined by BW clearly state PVP on a PVE server will be mutually consented to

At this point I have to believe you are:
1) Trolling to intentionally upset players affected by this bug (I wasn't even aware of it until I read this post),
2) Unable to read the terms for a PVE server and understand how this was a bug
So now I'm trolling because I disagree with you ? The terms do not apply here, why is that so hard to understand ? It's like riding into the boss FFA did you agree to that ?