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EA to Release Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 2012 Results on May 7, 2012

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EA to Release Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 2012 Results on May 7, 2012

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Space_Gimp
04.24.2012 , 01:14 AM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by PaxCorpii View Post
I remember when gamers weren't pretend financial businessmen and stockbrokers.
You must be ANCIENT. Like almost dust... How are you still alive? You have some sort of cybernetic life support in your body?
"It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence." - Ghandi

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unseenmaji
04.24.2012 , 01:15 AM | #122
It's absilutely stunnin how little game analysts actually know about the industry they're advising on.

Bioware never have 1.75 million paying subscribers.

It had, in its own weasel words, 1.75 'active accounts'.

Those 'active accounts' included anyone who had given EA their credit card details BUT anyone who wanted to play the game, even just for the first free month, had to hand over their credit card details.

When EA was pressed about how many of these 'active accounts' actually had 'paid subscriptions', they finally fessed up and admitted; 'Over half'.

OK, 'over half' of 1.75 million is 875,000 plus.

Now... that figure came at the end of December. That was the launch month and, incidentally, the biggest game buying monht of the year (Christmas, ffs).

What are the figiures now? Who knows? EA is doing its best to obfuscate, conceal and inflate the true figures so that it can protext its share price which is, basically, tanking (it was $60 a few years ago, it's now $16).

So, here we have an analyst who is telling us that he predicts the subscriber figures will be 1.25 million. THAT MEANS AN ACTUAL RISE IN SUBSCRIBER FIGURES OF OVER 30%.

This is obviously ********.. Either this so called analyst report is a plant put out by EA's incredibly dishonesy marketing department or the analyst thmeselves are morons.

Which is it?

Check that out guy posted it so true.

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PaxCorpii
04.24.2012 , 01:17 AM | #123
Quote: Originally Posted by Space_Gimp View Post
You must be ANCIENT. Like almost dust... How are you still alive? You have some sort of cybernetic life support in your body?
Lemme guess, you're one of those xbox-babies who think Halo was the beginning of FPS gaming.

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Drakkip
04.24.2012 , 01:50 AM | #124
Quote: Originally Posted by unseenmaji View Post
What are the figiures now? Who knows? EA is doing its best to obfuscate, conceal and inflate the true figures so that it can protext its share price which is, basically, tanking (it was $60 a few years ago, it's now $16).
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Shhh dude, you can't talk about stock prices or even reference stock prices unless you have a degree in finance or you'll get trolled.

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SinisterSniper
04.24.2012 , 01:55 AM | #125
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Said evidence is used to establish a behavior. Here's a hypothetical, and my last attempt at helping you to understand this before I go to bed:

One player has 29 days left on her account; she recently joined the game, but has decided to wait it out before deciding to sign up for a recurring subscription plan (she "cancelled" right after signing up). She's currently playing on free time, and despite having her card information on file, she will not make a decision about subscribing until there's 2 days left on the account.

A different player has 29 days left on his account; he just finished cancelling his subscription and has no desire or intent to return either in the 29 days remaining or afterward. He won't be back, even when BioWare hands him 30 days for free (see Stephen Reid's comments about who qualifies).

Another player has 29 days left on his account; he's currently signed up for a recurring monthly subscription. He's gung-ho and plans to be here for a while.

What's the difference between these three players for BioWare? I'll give you a hint: there is no difference. They're all "subscribers" simply because they have time left on their accounts.
Issue with this is that Bioware doesn't know what YOU ARE DOING/GOING TO DO, they don't know if you're making a decision to sub or not BUT you have paid for the time YOU ARE a sub for them. Those people who just got the game and cancel right away, have in essence paid for their subscription by purchasing the box.

Bioware doesn't know if you are leaving the game forever/thinking about leaving/changing payment methods/etc etc.

What about all the people who decide to cancel their credit card payments but change to game cards? You forgot about them.

Either way as an investor I would be much more pissed at giving away 30 days of free time to 1.6-1.7 people, than trying to bloat your numbers a little bit(which would just prolong it till the next investor call). This goes to show me that they are truly are giving this to show appreciation for their customers.

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mtsr
04.24.2012 , 01:55 AM | #126
There are new players on the server I play.

You have a beef with EA? Take it up with them, not interested in beefs.
I'm here for the swtor, the Bioware, and no I haven't any beef with EA and want no part of yours.
From the KOTORS *8 years exp in mmo's

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Jackobite
04.24.2012 , 01:59 AM | #127
My predictions is....

I dont care,
we get 16 guys/girls playing in my guild each night., thats all that matters to me.

some amateur stock brokers here care more about EA's price than EA do.
CE

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Captiosus
04.24.2012 , 02:08 AM | #128
Meh.

I've had to endure plenty of business, finance, and economics courses throughout my educational career. Enough to know that predicting EA's fiscal solvency viewed through the lens of one product is a fool's game.

In all fairness, TOR could utterly fail and EA would be fine. Hell, BioWare could completely fail and close and EA would still be fine. EA is a behemoth that owns IPs across all levels of gaming. There's only one division I believe would spell financial concern for EA, and that division is EA Sports.

If EA were to lose their exclusivity contracts with the NFL, PGA, and FIFA, then, and only then, would I be concerned about their financial status.

Edit: The only thing I'll predict is that EA will continued to be vilified by gamers (for several good reasons, and some not so good ones) and that vilification will continue to shake investor confidence. I don't expect a massive drop in their price from current levels after the May announcement.

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Lord_Karsk
04.24.2012 , 02:26 AM | #129
I think they will say they now have 1.3 m subs with the actual number beeing 700 k.
Alot of people like i'm guessing who paid for 6 months.Dont know if they use those numbers aswell.

Anyways the only reason this game will fail during 2012 is because bioware fails on the STAR WARS experience !

By that i mean players cant look like they actually live in the star wars universe.Armors are a disaster !

The massive feeling is little with dead zones and no end game pvp fun for either casual or competetive.

No space combat, and i mean real space combat not the fail on rails thats in the game.And because of this engine i belive they will not make massive space combat.Guessing it will be tiny 10 vs 10 maps were you can only fly in 3D view not first person with unresponsive controls and objecctive based maps like ground combat that wont work for space.

Developers not caring about an active and alive huge end game planet but on lvl alts with people ending up on fleet standing around like zombies with nothing to do.

No minigames like real fast podracing or cardgames were players cant bet against each others or the system.

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Shingara
04.24.2012 , 02:29 AM | #130
Seriously who cares how many are playing as long as your friends are and there are enough to pvp against, who cares what the shares do or whats said about EA.

Who cares aslong as they add content, keep the servers alive and functioning correctly and why do so many care what others are doing. Its not a case of keeping up with the person next door. If your having fun enjoy it simple as that so why the concern that bobby on the forums doesnt like it ?.

Dont people have there own minds anymore.
Health Warning - Thread May Contain Nuts.
First, you can continue as a subscriber, which gives you unlimited access to all game features and future Game Updates at no additional charge. http://www.swtor.com/info/news/blog/20120731