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EA to Release Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 2012 Results on May 7, 2012

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EA to Release Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 2012 Results on May 7, 2012

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unseenmaji
04.24.2012 , 12:45 AM | #111
Quote: Originally Posted by Dezzi View Post
What? That they do indeed include accounts which are "cancelled" but have time remaining in their subscription numbers? I posted such evidence earlier in the thread, but I'll repost it here for you:



http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ea-...story_featstor
They are so deceptive I agree the entire 30 days free nonsense was to up the subs figures for the reports, I do not believe this has 1.7million subs playing one bit.

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Space_Gimp
04.24.2012 , 12:49 AM | #112
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn View Post
in fact I'm betting that GW2 doesn't break half a million sales in it's first two months.
I'm willing to take that bet. My epeen against yours. 500k sales within 62 days world wide. World wide because you didn't specify in your post that I quoted.
"It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence." - Ghandi

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Drakkip
04.24.2012 , 12:51 AM | #113
Quote: Originally Posted by iheartnyc View Post
No offense, but you don't speak the vernacular and you clearly do not work in the finance industry, so I have no choice but to heavily discount your attempt at research and analysis.

Seriously, a stock price comparison of 2 companies and a 6mo/10yr period? That's ludicrous that you would even waste your time doing that. And then you take this analysis to conclude that there was been mismanagement in the company? Tell me champ, what is the current capitalization of the company? P/E ratio? D/E ratio? Margin? Book value? Expected capex for 2012? Any useful multipliers? These are the sort of things you should be looking at...
Settle down, go back through all of my posts in this thread. The question was in relation to 4th quarter, my response was "they would have some explaining to do." Nothing more, nothing less. When asked why I would think that, I referenced overall down stock prices. It was then suggested that another company with lower stock prices was the benchmark by which this could also be measured. All I did was use the relative stock prices from the 2 last two quarters of both companies as well as a compare stock prices from 10 years ago.

I am sure you're right a detailed analysis several pages long would tell a much better story /shrug, the data I referenced still supports my original statement "They have some explaining to do" Since I bet lots of people who hold stock don't also hold a degree in finance it's not unreasonable to conclude that some of them may want an explanation about why their stock is down significantly more than other stocks. This isn't much of a stretch as you are already "explaining" why it may or may not be a bad thing, however, its' not unreasonable to suggest some sort of an explanation is warranted.

However that being said if a $10,000 investment in that company in 2001 was now worth $5600 whereas in other companies it would be worth $38,000 (income not counted) then it's reasonable to suggest there has been some sort of mismanagement.

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DieAlteHexe
04.24.2012 , 12:52 AM | #114
Quote: Originally Posted by BCBull View Post
Go on record!

Post your predictions and why!
I have no clue but I am interested in seeing the numbers. Hopefully it will enable us to move on from this particular argument and move on to another. Then again, the way some folks have decided that EA/BW are lying, scheming, cheating bastiges, those numbers could be certified up one side and down the other and they still wouldn't believe.

So...at a guess? I'm gonna say sitting at around a million. I freely state that is a number pulled out of my backside based on what I think I see on the servers. I in no way assert that this is correct or incorrect.

It is, simply, a WAG.
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Monoth
04.24.2012 , 12:53 AM | #115
Quote: Originally Posted by BCBull View Post
Go on record!

Post your predictions and why!
Who cares..... Stocks go up and down for all sorts of reasons.....
F2P is like driving on a long stretch of highway with toll booths every 1/2 mile

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Space_Gimp
04.24.2012 , 12:54 AM | #116
Quote: Originally Posted by Monoth View Post
Who cares..... Stocks go up and down for all sorts of reasons.....
That's kinda the point....
"It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence." - Ghandi

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Aloro
04.24.2012 , 12:58 AM | #117
Quote: Originally Posted by Dezzi View Post
That's not what I said. More ad hominem?
You've twice falsely accused him of committing the ad hominem fallacy. Ad hominem means "to the man" and is the Latin term for the logical error of attacking the person doing the arguing instead of replying to the argument. He didn't say or imply anything about you either time, and in fact his statements were topical, whether you agreed with them or not. The first time, he made a comparison to WoW, and the second time he made a joking speculation about how many people unsubscribed. Neither of these were personal attacks against you in any sense.

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To the OP: that would be magical indeed! I think you meant to say they'll release the FIRST quarter of 2012 though, not the FOURTH. :P

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Monoth
04.24.2012 , 01:02 AM | #118
Quote: Originally Posted by Space_Gimp View Post
That's kinda the point....
What does EA financial records have anything to do with SWTOR?

I'm really get tired of the Trolls trying to say ever time EA's stock goes down that SWTOR is doomed and is going to fail.... It's getting old..... And as I mentioned EA's stock has nothing to do with SWTOR, it's completely off topic, This whole thread should be locked / deleted....

If I want to discuss a Companies Stock i'll join a Financial Forum to discuss it....
F2P is like driving on a long stretch of highway with toll booths every 1/2 mile

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Space_Gimp
04.24.2012 , 01:08 AM | #119
Quote: Originally Posted by Monoth View Post
What does EA financial records have anything to do with SWTOR?

I'm really get tired of the Trolls trying to say ever time EA's stock goes down that SWTOR is doomed and is going to fail.... It's getting old..... And as I mentioned EA's stock has nothing to do with SWTOR, it's completely off topic, This whole thread should be locked / deleted....

If I want to discuss a Companies Stock i'll join a Financial Forum to discuss it....
I have no idea what you are ranting about. I'm interested in EA as a whole. As for the second part of your break down... Trolls are not going anywhere. Including me. Maybe it is you that needs to leave.
"It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence." - Ghandi

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PaxCorpii
04.24.2012 , 01:11 AM | #120
I remember when gamers weren't pretend financial businessmen and stockbrokers.