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Free transfers in the future?


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Antipodes
04.23.2012 , 04:31 PM | #571
There needs to be server mergers or free transfers from low -> middle pop. I believe most people (including me) will rather quit than pay extra for server transfers just to play with a reasonable amount of people. Isn't playing with a large community that bare necessity for what a MMO subscription should support?

On Sunday evening, I waited for 1 hr for another *DPS* to fill the last spot for HM Lost Island. I figure that at least one DPS should be interested the new FP right? PvP queues were dead by 1 AM. The patch breathed a tiny breath of life into my server the first two days it was released. Now, it is even worse than before. 1.2 and the free month was the final hurrah in bringing people back to the game without doing anything drastic. I know Bioware is trying, but it didn't work.

Bioware needs to handle this carefully. Simply introducing paid transfers is going to hurt the game more than it helps.

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mothear
04.23.2012 , 04:35 PM | #572
Quote: Originally Posted by ReflexMMO View Post
My server has low population and i cannot do anything but sit on the fleet. Fix it.
i don't even care if they take away my legacy, my alts or credits. Just let me do something, the game used to be fun but now im paying 14.99$ to literally wait through 20 minute queue's and get stuck on a 4vs6 match
If you don't care about credits, legacy etc roll a character on some other servers, see if the population is what you are after then when transfers are available 'soon' you will have an idea where you want to go. Just an option.

Alternatively sit and wait for your queue to pop and get an outnumbered warzone and complain about low pop servers on the forum just to get ignored by Bioware;

Alternatively take a break.

Seriously there must be no lighter pop than my server Bacchus Blade Republic, it's been known for me to be the only person on fleet at 6.00am but I'll roll with it until transfers come in and decide what to do then.

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Perringaiden
04.23.2012 , 06:48 PM | #573
Quote: Originally Posted by SuilBhaloirs View Post
They are offering server transfers in Asia, why not in US, or EU servers? If you can do it on one set of servers, you can do it on them all.
Quote: Originally Posted by Drakkip View Post
They have server transfers (Asia or something), and let's be honest here, it's not like the technology is super secret impossible to code or anything. It's a matter of priorities and allowing players to do it.
This is what really annoys me about this whole thread.

a) I agree that they made a mistake by opening up too many servers, because everyone QQ'd about the QQueues. So in being nice to their customers, they shot themselves in the foot. Then their customers turned around and screamed blue murder at them for shooting themselves in the foot.

b) The Asia/Pacific transfers have not happened. They are *about* to, in a small scale test that will validate whether the technology they've been hurriedly writing (since they shot themselves in the foot) even works. The APAC transfers are a ONE-OFF, SINGLE-SHOT, CORRECTION MECHANISM, because they didn't provide APAC servers when the game was released. They are not designed as a commercial ad-hoc transfer system, and BioWare has already said that part of the system they're using for APAC transfers will be scrapped before they go live with ad-hoc transfers, because the APAC system is for "Whole Account Character Transfers". There is no 'favourtism' or bias towards APAC getting transfers first, its to move a population to where they should be. And once that one off occurs, they don't get transfers again till everyone does.

c) Character Transfers, in a system where there's not enough servers is not needed. In a system where everythings running relatively smoothly, its not needed. If they hadn't shot themselves in the foot bending over backward for all the people screaming about queues, they wouldn't need it. Therefore it takes time to retask engineers to write the software. To free up testing resources to imagine every scenario, develop the test cases, and test the system. All of those resources are taking away from what the majority of players want, more content. And before anyone says anything about unlimited wealth, there's a saying in SW development. It takes 9 months for one woman to make a baby. But if you have 9 women, you still won't get a baby in a month.

You'll get your transfers. I'll personally guarantee it, on no more basis than BioWare has said that they're working on it, and so far, they've not dropped something the said were working on. If you're bored, go play another game, go re-roll on another server, drop your sub and say you'll come back later. If you really feel that strongly, vote with the only thing that matters, your cash.

But mostly, quit demanding that BioWare magically instantaneously create something out of nothing on your say so, when they're working s fast as they can already to do it. Show a little respect to people who have made something clearly good enough that you didn't walk away a week after playing it. If its a bad game, you wouldn't be here stamping your foot like Veruca Salt.
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Perringaiden
04.23.2012 , 09:06 PM | #574
Also, from the DevTracker, if you're paying attention:

Quote: Originally Posted by StephenReid View Post
As I've mentioned before, the character transfer system for Asia-Pacific servers is not the final system - it is in fact essentially a prototype for the final system, designed to transfer a small amount of characters (relatively speaking).

The final character transfer system is in development now and is a high priority for the development team. However, as this is a complex technical challenge with many 'moving parts' it will not be available until some time after the Asia-Pacific character transfer process is finished. When we have more details and a more accurate ETA to share, we will do so.
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Andryah
04.23.2012 , 09:22 PM | #575
Quote: Originally Posted by Perringaiden View Post
"The final character transfer system is in development now" - Rejoice and be merry.
Yep yep.

Personally, I want them to do a good job, regression test and debug everything and NOT rush it out. We don't need a whole flurry of threads in general forum with people complaining that the transfer process ate their money, gear, characters, etc. If people are too impatient to wait for a finished process, then unsub until they release it!.
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celebrei
04.24.2012 , 01:43 AM | #576
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Yep yep.

Personally, I want them to do a good job, regression test and debug everything and NOT rush it out. We don't need a whole flurry of threads in general forum with people complaining that the transfer process ate their money, gear, characters, etc. If people are too impatient to wait for a finished process, then unsub until they release it!.
And by the time they are ready players in low pop servers would have already unsubbed and moved on yo D3 GW2 and Tera

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Nemonia
04.24.2012 , 01:58 AM | #577
Quote: Originally Posted by celebrei View Post
And by the time they are ready players in low pop servers would have already unsubbed and moved on yo D3 GW2 and Tera
That might be the case, but Tera isn't that great tbh, I reckon people would rather stick with swtor than playing that.

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Briseius
04.24.2012 , 02:21 AM | #578
Cognitively i feel as though many are arguing rather separate subtexts of the overall issue (rather; Community v.s sustainability.) By which i mean, one simply looking to enjoy a community may advocate toward server merges and / or character transfers, where as another may be more appeased by instantaneous PvP queues and a cross server group finder.

In comparison to modern MMO's, most offer features of both, which help create a 'satisfying' player-game relationship. I personally feel that despite BW's intended "maintenance of community by exclusion of cross server connectivity" a healthy MMO gameplay experience should incorporate both; the ability to leave a server and start anew, or rather embrace the server while ultimately being connected to the games population of millions ... (Planet > Continents > Civilizations .etc / SWTOR > Servers > Guilds .etc) Theory perhaps, but a proposition of development none-the-less.
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Lokishinkicker
04.24.2012 , 07:31 AM | #579
Quote: Originally Posted by Perringaiden View Post
But mostly, quit demanding that BioWare magically instantaneously create something out of nothing on your say so, when they're working s fast as they can already to do it. Show a little respect to people who have made something clearly good enough that you didn't walk away a week after playing it. If its a bad game, you wouldn't be here stamping your foot like Veruca Salt.
Here, flippin here.
So sick of whiners.
Catch yerselves on. Good game, good team, fastest new content delivery that I've ever seen.
Bravo Bioware.

ps I am looking forward to character transfers though :P

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islander
04.24.2012 , 08:04 AM | #580
Quote: Originally Posted by celebrei View Post
And by the time they are ready players in low pop servers would have already unsubbed and moved on yo D3 GW2 and Tera
Tera is awful. that's being objective. Play it for two weeks and see.

D3 has zero PvP and is, for all intents and purposes, a pay to win fiasco. 15 years and this shows you how awful Blizzard is today.

GW2, this is where people will bolt to, if anywhere. However, if you think for a moment it won't be a bug ridden mess most of the summer, then you're simply being delusional.

This game is getting better, and honestly wouldnt be in bad shape at all if it weren't for the empty servers. The content is good, its the communities that are dead. PvE grouping is near impossible now on most servers.
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