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The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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Marrond
04.23.2012 , 03:46 PM | #441
Quote: Originally Posted by Rayla_Felana View Post

Someone didn't watch Monty Python. /facepalm
That's entirely true. My sense of humour is very specific.

Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
You realize that tracking site does NOT track number of subs, right? Only how many are playing concurrently....
And what I am talking about? We told you far before that subs =/= active players. It's nice you already notice... or my happines is too early in this case?

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Rayla_Felana
04.23.2012 , 03:47 PM | #442
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
You realize that tracking site does NOT track number of subs, right? Only how many are playing concurrently....
This.

There are guilds out there with numbers in the range of 200-350 that ONLY play on fridays/weekends.

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Goretzu
04.23.2012 , 03:48 PM | #443
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
My server rarely says anything more than "Standard". Yet the population is still quite high. If it was as "huge scale" as you're trying to paint it out to be, I'd be feeling it, too. Several posters over the last few pages, 200+ on Fleet, 600 on Fleet, would be feeling it, too.

We're not. So, not as large scale as you're trying to make people believe...
Well there should be some correlation, but so far SWTOR seems to have broke the mold (i.e. a lot of people paying but not playing), which is all we know till new subs numbers.

Although the free 30 days will likely make subs numbers next month completely meaningless.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Rayla_Felana
04.23.2012 , 03:49 PM | #444
Quote: Originally Posted by Marrond View Post
That's entirely true. My sense of humour is very specific.
Then we share a trait.

Perhaps we 'fanboys' as I get labelled and you 'trolls' as I am sure you have been labelled before, do share some genetic structure. :P

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Dezzi
04.23.2012 , 03:49 PM | #445
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
Although the free 30 days will likely make subs numbers next month completely meaningless.
The cynic in me says, "How convenient is that!?"
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JeramieCrowe
04.23.2012 , 03:50 PM | #446
Quote: Originally Posted by Marrond View Post
[U]And what I am talking about? We told you far before that subs =/= active players. It's nice you already notice... or my happines is too early in this case?
And a decrease in concurrent playing =/= inactive subs, either. I've been trying to say that both are inconclusive, so you're tirade about inactive/loss of subs is almost completely unfounded.
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Goretzu
04.23.2012 , 03:52 PM | #447
Quote: Originally Posted by Dezzi View Post
The cynic in me says, "How convenient is that!?"
Yeah a good PR deptment would definately release subs for that particular month.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Marrond
04.23.2012 , 03:54 PM | #448
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
We're not. So, not as large scale as you're trying to make people believe...
I will make it slowly.

You see this very, very subtle diffrence between list of servers stated as being Very Heavy/Full and a list of servers that is full of Light with maybe few standard and maybe 1 heavy? This subtle diffrence is so subtle like distance from EU to US over Atlantic Ocean. The thing that you have luck to play on server where people are re-rolling - great for you! I mean seriously you're really a lucky guy here. Imagine that 3 out of 4 noted by me servers were full of life and now are entirely ghost towns no matter when you log in.

I did this as slowly as I could. I can't describe problem better. My lacks in English grammar and vocabulary make me unable to.

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Auxxi
04.23.2012 , 03:58 PM | #449
EA is worst company, Forbes magazine said.

When i see the game, when are only some people prefered, i think, something is wrong.

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GalacticKegger
04.23.2012 , 04:04 PM | #450
Quote: Originally Posted by Marrond View Post
I don't have to. You know there's site with tracking statstics over each server. Also I do remember huge queues back then and by gathering resources from 4 diffrent servers (Basilisk Droid, Tomb of Freedon Nadd, Ravager, Bloodworthy) and how many players actualy were in both fleets. It's very easy to calculate average number of players. Neverthless you will call me a troll because my point of view isn't hurraoptimistic and selfish as yours.


I agree it's perfectly normal. But not on such huge scale.
Actually, there's no such thing as accurate server statistics because Bioware doesn't release that information. The only other method to justify "on almost every server" is to physically play on almost every server. Do I consider you a troll? Not at all. The voice of unbiased reason? Not at all. Nobody wins this debate because the only legitimate proof is a screen of the servers one plays on. And even those can be doctored. I'm just here to inject sanity where I can. Ocasionally helping the community by absorbing or deflecting drive-by griefings is merely a bonus. It's a one for all all for one thing.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?