Tank Assassins (and Shadows) are ruining PvP.

Why don't you provide some parses of a tank specced assassin doing higher DPS?

The only numbers I have are the PvE ones provided from tank assassins in PvE tank gear. Maybe you should stop using parses as a talking point until you can find their PvP counter-parts? I didn't go off on this "700 DPS", "half the DPS of a DPS class" tangent... doesn't seem like it's any better than any other anecdotal evidence if you can't back it up.

On the other hand, I'll be the first to support your point when someone links a PvP parse that shows that tank assassin burst DPS is nothing to write home about.

The only numbers I have are the PvE ones provided from tank assassins in PvE tank gear. Maybe you should stop using parses as a talking point until you can find their PvP counter-parts? I didn't go off on this "700 DPS", "half the DPS of a DPS class" tangent... doesn't seem like it's any better than any other anecdotal evidence if you can't back it up.

On the other hand, I'll be the first to support your point when someone links a PvP parse that shows that tank assassin burst DPS is nothing to write home about.

Tank Assassins and Shadows are NOT supposed to kill someone in 6-7 hits, let alone even pull 4k damage. Stop it, they're not overpowered in any aspect and only balances out according to skill tree. I play a 50 Tank Assassin also and the MOST I ever hit for was 3200 (Shock) and that was with recklessness and a relic on. I barely hit 2-3k and my average dps is 189+ or less.

We're supposed to survive, not demolish through mobs of everything while becoming invincible.

I actually don't have to prove anything because it's not my job to disprove their claims, it's their job to prove them. Bioware has indicated in both word and deed that Assassins are fine. The people crying nerfs are the ones who need to prove their case, which none have done. They are, after all, the ones saying something is wrong. Where's the evidence of that? If a spec is doing more damage in PvP than in PvE, then prove it. I've provided what I've been able to find simply as a point of reference, which is more than anyone else has done so far. I'm making parses a 'talking point' because it's the closest thing we have to an objective set of data we can look at.

One would think that with the number of people claiming to have Valor 60+ Assassins that their their class is 'overpowered', one of them would run a parse on the WZ dummy to actually prove their point. Until one does, the parses I linked are still the most relevant despite the fact that they were done for PvE.

mine is full bm. and there are 3 main attacks.. thrash, which can do about 1-1.2k per hit. force lightning which, happens to be max ticked at 720 per tick (2800 on a long channel which can be inturrupted), and shock. which when specced into CAN do damage. but you need to basically use a shock first, then hope you get the CD reset with a thrash, so you can pop recklessness, just to get a big crit (which only gets done once recklessness is off CD. 1:15).. and death field has at the most on undergeared players, popped for 2500.


the reason why people QQ is because they have quite a bit of utility, which is why i rolled it in the first place. (and because i THOUGHT, they were a rogue type class... but i was dead wrong about that). i saw that they had all the stuff my sage had as far as balance tree was concerned, and figured having stealth and fight resetters would be great to boot. so i rolled assassin before finding out that everyone thought they were OP.


honestly its not the damage they put out that is killing people, its the fact that they can pick and choose fights, and they can move around easier than other melee classes when it comes to being rooted/stunned. we don't have tons of closers, but i've got a 4 sec stun, an 8 sec mezz(with 2 sec stun on the end), a 3 second knockdown/stun, an inturrupt, force speed, a pull, and a 30m aoe shot (death field).

i specced different than the other 31 point tank assassins, but i like how i get a little bit more utility for some games and the death field comes in handy more than it is used for damage. i also don't run harnessed shadows, so count out that massive force lightning healing ticks

I run Full Darkness and 10 points into the Madness for the double-shock. Other than that, I'm full tank gear in stats and everything.

To be completely honest, I think people who are complaining about this matter just needs to learn to play. I've been in situations where I was cornered by 2 guys, a Jedi Shadow FULL DPS gear, and a Sage DPS. Both looked to be pretty well geared and I held them off long enough for my other teammates to kill them. I had 1/2 health remaining after about 2 minutes in after popping cooldowns and I killed the Shadow and was running towards the Sage.

It's a very skill-oriented class and is why I actually picked it in the first place. It's very fun to play, and you really need to know what to do and when to do it.

which is what utility oriented classes require. i am flat out of keybinds and am forced to use a click for certain things like buffs, other classes, like powertech. i have every single uesable thing on a bind no problem. but they are a very straight forward class

which is what utility oriented classes require. i am flat out of keybinds and am forced to use a click for certain things like buffs, other classes, like powertech. i have every single uesable thing on a bind no problem. but they are a very straight forward class