The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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JeramieCrowe

04.21.2012 , 11:59 PM \| #91
Quote: Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie Was this an attempt to sidestep the topic? You said that BioWare stated from the beginning this was a Story driven game, I pointed out that if this was the case why would they have pushed PVP so heavily. What the player asked for or wanted isn't the point. The point is that if BioWare is leaning on this being a story driven game they wouldn't have given PvP the focus they did. No, you're trying to put words in my mouth I never said. I responded to a post asking what TOR's HOOK was. THE ONE THING that sets it apart from other MMOs. Now you're trying to make it sound like I said that's ALL TOR brings to the table, when that's not what I said at all. You realize that BioWare does not have a zero sum dev crew, right?
Allix Crowe - Vanguard Trooper -/- Ethavan Crowe - Smuggler Gunslinger -/- Malrath Crowe - Powertech Bounty Hunter -/- Boslo - Jedi Knight Sentinel -/- Jiao-gen Pall - Jedi Knight Guardian -/- Landen Tanarr - Jedi Consular Sage -/- Vaelyth Kinti-kaar- Sith Warrior Juggernaut -/- Oteln'erose'thu - Imperial Agent Sniper -/- Zandur Tuum - Cathar Knight

JeramieCrowe

04.22.2012 , 12:01 AM \| #92
Quote: Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie I got in day 2 of early access, on top of having gone through much content during beta. So from day 2 of early access to right now is slightly over 4 months, not 3. With how easy this game is and how much experience and money they throw at you doing questing, you can get through content quickly. Also having experience with the game systems and how it works from beta helped speed that along as well. How easy the game is? Hehehe, I have guildies who just NOW made 50 on their first character, and they got in first day of Early Access just like me. A few of them keep asking for help because, as they say, "the game is too hard". Now, I realize that some may think this game is fairly easy, I do too, but have you ever leveled a character on "hardmode"? It certainly makes the game interesting...
Allix Crowe - Vanguard Trooper -/- Ethavan Crowe - Smuggler Gunslinger -/- Malrath Crowe - Powertech Bounty Hunter -/- Boslo - Jedi Knight Sentinel -/- Jiao-gen Pall - Jedi Knight Guardian -/- Landen Tanarr - Jedi Consular Sage -/- Vaelyth Kinti-kaar- Sith Warrior Juggernaut -/- Oteln'erose'thu - Imperial Agent Sniper -/- Zandur Tuum - Cathar Knight

PostalTwinkie

04.22.2012 , 12:04 AM \| #93
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe No, you're trying to put words in my mouth I never said. I responded to a post asking what TOR's HOOK was. THE ONE THING that sets it apart from other MMOs. Now you're trying to make it sound like I said that's ALL TOR brings to the table, when that's not what I said at all. You realize that BioWare does not have a zero sum dev crew, right? Well you said this.... Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe Storytelling. And the devs have been saying for YEARS that if you don't like story, then this isn't the game for you. If you came here anyway, not liking story, that's your own damned fault, no one else's. You have pretty damn strong emphasis on story, and fail to mention any other hook for the game.
Quote: Originally Posted by Blavatsky Problems of the First World. "My Video Game Dev implements improvements to my gaming experience in a clandestine manner , this is costing me virtual money "

Rikalonius

04.22.2012 , 12:07 AM \| #94
Quote: Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie Go to Planet X and talk to person in charge. Person in charge talks trash about opposing faction. Person in charge tells you to kill X bad guy(s), get X item, or clear X area. Repeat steps 2 and 3 a few times on planet. Person in charge tells you to go to next planet. Repeat all above steps. This is what EVERY class story boils down too. Rwrang! You have to go to your ship's holoterminal to speak to overall person in charage of story progress Otherwise, spot on.
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PostalTwinkie

04.22.2012 , 12:07 AM \| #95
Quote: Originally Posted by Rikalonius Rwrang! You have to go to your ship's holoterminal to speak to overall person in charage of story progress Otherwise, spot on. Ah, yes, I forgot about the trudge back to the ship.
Quote: Originally Posted by Blavatsky Problems of the First World. "My Video Game Dev implements improvements to my gaming experience in a clandestine manner , this is costing me virtual money "

Rikalonius

04.22.2012 , 12:10 AM \| #96
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe How easy the game is? Hehehe, I have guildies who just NOW made 50 on their first character, and they got in first day of Early Access just like me. A few of them keep asking for help because, as they say, "the game is too hard". Now, I realize that some may think this game is fairly easy, I do too, but have you ever leveled a character on "hardmode"? It certainly makes the game interesting... Please explain what leveling a character on "hardmode" is? No companion. No blue items? This is not bragging, this is me taking vacation from work. I was in day 1 early access, and I was 50 with my Bounty Hunter on December 23rd. In game time: 4 days 3 hours (something minutes).
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PostalTwinkie

04.22.2012 , 12:14 AM \| #97
Quote: Originally Posted by Rikalonius Please explain what leveling a character on "hardmode" is? No companion. No blue items? This is not bragging, this is me taking vacation from work. I was in day 1 early access, and I was 50 with my Bounty Hunter on December 23rd. In game time: 4 days 3 hours (something minutes). I have no idea what he was getting at either. I had my level 50 Juggernaut the first week of January, and that was taking over a week off to travel for holiday.
Quote: Originally Posted by Blavatsky Problems of the First World. "My Video Game Dev implements improvements to my gaming experience in a clandestine manner , this is costing me virtual money "

Tyraelium

04.22.2012 , 12:14 AM \| #98
Quote: Originally Posted by Rikalonius Please explain what leveling a character on "hardmode" is? No companion. No blue items? This is not bragging, this is me taking vacation from work. I was in day 1 early access, and I was 50 with my Bounty Hunter on December 23rd. In game time: 4 days 3 hours (something minutes). Slightly related to this: players on WoW just completed the Ironman challenge, the TRUE "hardmode" method of leveling.
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BCBull

04.22.2012 , 12:17 AM \| #99
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe Every other MMO must really suck for you at launch, since NONE have ever had as much content as TOR did at launch, and at 3 months old... You see in other games you didn't hit 50 and reroll... There was tons of content to progress your MAIN. We just don't have that here. You hit 50 and either grind warzones for a set of pvp gear do 3 raids in 3 weeks and get bis pve gear, or reroll... So if you are not a reroller by trade (a lot of us aren't) there is no content for you after 2-3 weeks.
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Shingara

04.22.2012 , 12:19 AM \| #100
Quote: Originally Posted by BCBull You see in other games you didn't hit 50 and reroll... There was tons of progression left for you MAIN. We just don't have that here. You hit 50 and either grind warzones for a set of pvp gear do 3 raids in 3 weeks and get bis pve gear, or reroll... So what mmo has been released where you got to 50 (top lvl) and had all this content to go through that swtor doesnt seem to have for you ?
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