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Healing, definately out of control at the moment. need some sort of check on them

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Healing, definately out of control at the moment. need some sort of check on them
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Shadow__
04.21.2012 , 07:42 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by me_unknown View Post
no it's not. not even close. any two dps can easily kill a tank + healer by focusing the healer. even with guard and taunt!
Just wow. You cannot focus a guarded and babysat healer in this scenario. He can heal through 1 dps easily, so with guard he can heal through two of them and throw a heal on the tank here and there. The tank can taunt the dps which gives the healer extra room for even more heals. He can use cc's to take a break from damage, the healer can also kite and los. The dps will die sooner or later to the tank. If you are a healer and lose with a tank to 2 dps, you either need to get some gear or seriously learn to play. If the tank is a sin/shadow, such scenario is not even a contest. Also someone needs to look up how guard works and how much actual mitigation it provides.

Healers are still too strong, the numbers prove it. 700k+ healing in a warzone is stupid. You can ignore the facts and claim that you want your OP healers back. I and most people who actually do group pvp disagree. If anything, healing should be nerfed a bit more and survivability buffed.

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Masturomenos
04.21.2012 , 07:48 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by ebado View Post
No rated team worth their salt is going to bring more than 2 healers, and one of those might even be a hybrid. Expertise favoring damage done ensured that.
Exactly and 2 heals is pushing it. A dps with a medpack brings more utiliy then any pure heal spec. I mean god forbid the dps has cloak lol that one dps is more useful then 2 healers.

When ttk is under 5 seconds for a dps and under 10 for a tank a healer offers nothing. Getting off 3 casts for 2k a peice in a 10 second window means squat when one cd from a dps does 10k damage.

People be serious this isnt 1100 rating arena ranked wzs will further prove what we have said on the ptr if the empty servers and the fact that gw2 has more pre purchases then swtor has subs hasnt proved it already.

I hope everyone has a dps and tank toon because healers are broken now cant wait to see what they are worth when people are playing and communicating on vent.
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Masturomenos
04.21.2012 , 07:52 PM | #63
The only thing swtor will prove is that even with half a decade and 300 million dollars u cant make a decent game.

I wish before the devs focused on balancethe made a decent gtn, or a working inerface. It took them 4 months after half a decade to give us a halfass interface any programer could throw up on curse.com within a week. So lets not back a company that ruined a fps (me3) and a movie franchise 30 plus years strong within the first quarter of 2012.

Atleast vanilla wow had challenging content atlast i had to wand for mana and feign death to drink. Were making excuses for mistakes a game didnt makein 2004 that this game is making 7 years later. Please no one can tell me that BW knows what they are doing. Lol. We cant even copy a toon to ptr. Lol. Whats next they gonna invent decursive.
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IronScarlet
04.21.2012 , 08:28 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Kracin View Post
regardless of the expertise changes, 4 full battlemaster dps were unable to down a single healer, because you have 4 healers all healing whichever one is being focused until their backup arrives. it does work, but unfortunately it isn't a very good system when it makes a team unkillable due to spamming heals repeatedly, even in dps form. you only have so many inturrupts and they have just as many different heals that come back up quicker than your inturrupts.

unfortunately there are a lot of fanboys that rely on "l2p" and "baddies" as their main focus of retort, which is funny, because currently i see more healers, marauders, and sentinels than ever before.



it used to be no problem for healing as people only "needed" 2 healers per team to make a difference, and they were easier to actually focus down, because they were either alone with their dps/tank counterparts, or they were with their other healer which meant the other nodes/areas werent under constant heals.

but now people are overcompensating and teaming up with multiple healers, essentially even though the healing is down and the damage is up, it makes it much harder to focus a single rhealer when 2-3 others are focus healing him at the same time the dps is attacking. and lets face it, there are more ways to mitigate damage, than there are to keep someone from being healed for much. bioware forgot to add certain abilties that mitigate healing done to targets. ie target is always taking less than 80% damage, but always receiving 100% healing.
Can we all agree that 80% of these people on the forums are terriable at pvp. 2 Dps equal gear can spike a healer down now post 1.2. If u see cross heals CC the other or seperate them.

IF you face a PREMADE on a PUG 4 healer or 2 or none; Your going to get ur a** handed to you.. Stop this BS about healers being still op.

STOP the whinning on the forums and ask for some help. Really every class has been called op, because of this bs we have a no skilled game now. NOW we have No trinity only DPS and if u dont know that, A your not 50, B. role another classes and try them out.

I got it lets make a I WIN BUTTON. jk

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Meenos
04.21.2012 , 08:29 PM | #65
Try to kill a sorc healer a Op healer and a tank jugg that places gaurd on whoever is getting focused. nobody will die.

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Syylara
04.21.2012 , 08:37 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Meenos View Post
Try to kill a sorc healer a Op healer and a tank jugg that places gaurd on whoever is getting focused. nobody will die.
Well, the scenario you present involves 3 players coordinating well together.

That means 3 other players need to do just as good if not better a job of coordinating together to beat them.
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AHChrist
04.21.2012 , 08:38 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Meenos View Post
Try to kill a sorc healer a Op healer and a tank jugg that places gaurd on whoever is getting focused. nobody will die.
Sure if you attack the sorc, your buddy attacks the op healer, and some other guy attacks the tank. Try CCing the tank and a healer then chain stun one healer and dps him down. Guess what? You just killed a healer. Repeat on other healer before tank even fills his resolve bar.

Problem with this game is, every dps wants to be able to solo any class no matter what. No wonder it sucks so bad because BW actually listened. Too bad some of you still suck so bad you can't do it.

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Masturomenos
04.21.2012 , 08:57 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Meenos View Post
Try to kill a sorc healer a Op healer and a tank jugg that places gaurd on whoever is getting focused. nobody will die.
Oh so u expect to be able to kill 2 people by urself. I see its a self esteem issue. Why should one dps kill a tank and healer while a tank and a healer need a minute to kill u?
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Zbus
04.21.2012 , 08:58 PM | #69
I dont know that healing is out of control but I will admit to seeing a huge increase of hybird healing spec teams in the past few weeks. And by that I mean full teams of merc / OP premades. 2 full time healers 1 op and the other merc 2 pure dps mercs and the last 4 are a hybird split of merc/OP healing dps.

The group is a royal pain in the butt to kill due to the sheer volume of healing but I cant say that healing needs a nerf. I see groups of mara running around speed ganking people to offset thier weakness in prolonged fights by killing faster. I myself try to group with other Gun Slingers when i can find them to help offset our cover mechanic problems and to kill other players faster so it makes since that healers would group in ever larger groups to off set the weakness they feel after 1.2 nerfs. So my advice to you OP find ways to group up and use tactics that counter the healers in groups. Do what the healers have done which is adapt and stop calling for nerfs without just reasons.

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goulet
04.21.2012 , 09:09 PM | #70
unless youre talking about a bh/trooper healer who are ridiculous with that no interrupt shield, the others can be handled.
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