The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

I recently canceled and my friend who talked me into buying this canceled as well. I'm not going to immaturely bash the game but it just wasn't for me.

Here's a great example of a BS quest. Defeat the Avatar of Sel-Makor. He can cast a force choke and cast an AOE at the same time. How come I cant do that?

I think EAoware took a huge step in giving customers a free month, aside from hiring help it was probably the 2nd best thing they could do for us & for the game.

I love the PvP i this game and although I don't care for the PvE, stupid plagues(Who was the genius that thought of that?) or Legacy crap I would stay just for the PVP.

However, I must have some eta for server mergers/transfers by the time my free time runs out or I'm a goner for sure cause I'm wasting way too much time standing in line for WZ...

I think it's clear that EAoware has made plenty of questionable decisions but they can still turn things around if they stop wasting resources on features that are not essential while 75% of server communities falls apart in front of their eyes.

So I notice we have the same five or six people posting over and over again how the game is fail on this thread and have been doing so for days.....meanwhile most of the servers are still standard or heavy despite the Diablo II open weekend and the open Tera beta.

In further reading it's been pretty much proven time and again that the OP's statements are false, and his links are bogus misinformation as Daniel Erickson just said two days ago that the population hasn't dropped.

But yeah; doom, fail...The sky!!! she's a falling!!!!!!!

Don't take this the wrong way, as nothing I say should be taken personally...

Why do we take one man at his word because he happens to work for BioWare (he has chips on the table), but we don't take this analyst's or the player's concerns on their merits?

Sitting back and looking at this discussion, it just seems that people on either side pick and choose which (mis)information backs their claim and call it concrete proof of their hypothesis. It seems we give the benefit of the doubt to the guy who works for BioWare because "he would know," but I would argue that's precisely the reason we should scrutinize his information; when the captain of the Costa Concordia tells me the ship isn't sinking--despite that uneasy feeling I have--I'm running for the lifeboat.

All information should be taken with a grain of salt.

anecdotal evidence is not something i would necessarily use.... counting people on fleet is not something i would use either.... with legacy out, perhaps there are people playing the opposite faction storyline with one of the unlocked races.... just throwing that out there as a possibility since if they are out actively questing, or even doing that world event thing on Tatooine, then it may stand to reason, that is why they aren't standing around at fleet.

I wouldn't say "Doom, fail" etc but my server is usually listed Standard at peak times with 20-40 people in fleet and about 100-150 in faction. Ques can take long even during peak hours on our "standard" pop server and there are many servers listed as light pop. I just think that a large part of the community is being affected and that sever pop is a bigger issue than legacy or rakghoul plagues. Yes, they said they're "working" on server transfers and that is clear but I think the way the entire problem is being handled has been unsatisfactory and has created a substantial amount of negativity. I know some people are on servers with decent pop but in my server every one talks about the "server pop problem" and we're listed "Standard". Anyways, I hope everything works out in the end... I've seen a lot of people go but there are still some good players around...

Simply because if he lies to his investors or makes statements to the media about the health of his product he can be held accountable in a court of law; also he has the actual numbers some dude who was a burger flipper last week and a Analyst today doesn't.

It isn't rocket surgery.

I'm not going to spend my gametime sitting on the fleet infecting people and doing the Tat infected quests, that's BW's way of distracting players. We all know the game's population is declining and at an alarming rate, despite pvp being a second afterthought in this game, it's what most of us want to do and BW/Mythic can't seem to get pvp right- look at Ilum, and now you can't pick up the 30/150 kills daily/weekly anymore.

For now I'm levelling up my alts until my (free) sub runs out.

The UI editor is the best part of 1.2, hands down as my UI looks the same way I had the UI in SWG (pre-CU). Graphics looks sharper (too sharp) so I had to turn down shader complexity from high to low and it's now much easier on the eyes.